FedEx Ground Linehaul with JohnBoy

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  1. motocross25

    motocross25 Road Train Member

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    Late to the party as usual but to echo what everyone else said, that’s what I was always told too is about a ton difference is ok, anymore than that it gets kinda sketchy. What I don’t know is aside from company policy and just general “doubles policy”, is if you happen to get pulled over and give the DOT man your bills, or cross a scale even, if the heavier trailer is the tail is that a ticketable offense? I’ve heard some states have a guideline where the rear trailer can’t be more than like 20% heavier than the lead but i didn’t know if that’s gospel, or truck driver folklore.
     
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  3. JohnBoy

    JohnBoy Road Train Member

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    First I’m hearing of that. I’ll have to ask around about that. The consensus I’ve got about this question is up to 2000 pounds I’ll be alright. One other thing, you spoke of the bills. We don’t have any. On the ELD for load description, we only put in “parcels”. Apparently FedEx and UPS are granted the ok from the powers to be in all the states to put that entry in.
     
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  4. motocross25

    motocross25 Road Train Member

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    Well in full transparency this was years ago and heard in the drivers lounge so I wouldn’t put a lot of stock behind it.


    And this answered a question I’ve had for so long I forgot to tee it up for you. When I did LTL it was nothing for us to have 30+ bills per trailer by the time they were done stacking, decking, and cramming stuff in. I’ve often wondered how that was in your sector with god knows how many 100’s of boxes per pup.
     
  5. gentleroger

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    If you harken back to the paper log days the "load section" was just shipper/commodity/load or BOL number. Back then, I was taught that the important thing was the load/BOL number because with that all the underlying details could be discovered. The commodity blank was just to give DOT an idea of what was in the trailer without having to read the BOL, and we were taught to be as vague as possible to avoid being caught in a pedantic trap - particularly when the BOL lists PO and item number without descriptions. If the driver writes down 'paper towels' when there are two skids of toliet paper - FORM AND MANNER VIOLATION, UP AGAINST THE WALL! FAK covers all contingencies. I have never had a DOT officer concerned with what was in the blanks - provided they were filled in.

    What I'm finding interesting is Fedex's "minimum required placards" policy. I was under the impression that if the trailer has more than 1,000 pounds of hazmat then it has to be placarded with all the underlying classes. If Fedex can get away with just 'dangerous' placards, then they do so.
     
  6. JohnBoy

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    With all the trailers that I pull, I bet there’s only one a month that has those plastic envelopes attached to the trailer that is very vague about what the hazmat commodity is, and that envelope is attached to the grab handle on the rear door. I find it hard to believe that with all the packages in all these trailers I haul, that’s the only amount of hazmat material in these trailers. And in response to your input about the load info, I remember a DOT officer back in the 80’s when I had my hazmat endorsement tell me exactly what you said, put something there, don’t leave it blank.
     
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    When I did seasonal UPS when I first started driving, they based trailer position by volume, not weight. If we took a set to Goodland, KS though, we weighed and left the scale tickets with the trailer because Denver would come over and take triples back and they hooked up based on weight, same as a triples turnpike run from KC to Wichita. Even twin 53's on the turnpike were hooked per volume and driver's often complained because the weights were "backwards" a lot of times. If the road is clear and the wind isn't blowing 25mph+, I never had an issue personally.
     
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  8. IH9300SBA

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    @High Stepper can probably tell us for sure, because I've been out of the LTL game for almost 5 years now. But, DANGEROUS can be used when there a two different classifications not above a certain weight iirc. And it's not for all classifications, but only certain ones.
     
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  9. JohnBoy

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    Put my training cap back on this past week. Had a new driver ride with me to show him the ropes. This week he’s on his own, except I’ll be shadowing him in case there’s any issues.

    I’ll be off this night run on Thursday. Friday morning I am taking 3 days off and meeting my wife who is flying into Daphne Alabama to go house hunting.

    In the “WTF” category. Last night just past the westbound Brownsville scales, the CB was buzzing about a goat mindlessly walking down the shoulder. At 2:30 am, lo and behold, there was the goat just walking down the shoulder.
     
  10. MACK E-6

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    If you have 1000 lbs total of hazmat on board, it’s all different classes and table 2, and IIRC you loaded it at one place, “dangerous” placards are perfectly legal.

    If one of those classes is I believe 2200 lbs or more, then you need that specific class placard in addition to the “dangerous”.

    It’s also legal to throw placards for every class you’re carrying if you’re not sure, but that may cause the law to look a little harder at you.
     
  11. MACK E-6

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    That one is definitely news to me.

    It also begs the question of “heavier on paper vs by the scale readings” too since when I have access to a scale I always weigh my sets to be sure.

    I have had loads I had to pull reverse hooked on paper because of unmanifested freight.
     
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