Maybe the cost of a New Truck is being manipulated….

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  2. snowwy

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    The entire west coast has already outlawed ice by 2035.

    Then you have Wyoming banning ev sales.

    With the growing competition of ev. I don't see how Wyoming thinks they can win.

    Don't see many ice Commercials these days.

    New technology is always expensive when it first comes out. Tarriffs won't help any time soon. Also.
     
  3. Long FLD

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    No they didn’t. The resolution didn’t pass and is dead.

    Or did they try it again?
     
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  4. Ridgeline

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    All I know is the EPA and the Feds need to reverse the decision to allow the states to regulate emissions and end this 50 state - 50 state regulation rule.
     
  5. snowwy

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    I just saw the story. Haven't seen anything about it since. But looks like you're right.

    I don't know how it would even fly.
     
  6. Banker

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    I happen to agree with you on this particular topic, which even shocked me. If you are for states rights which I happen to be for, I also don’t feel someone should get to pick and choose only the states rights said person agrees with. All or nothing and I am for all! I feel like most states don’t want the feds telling them anything and I agree with that.
     
  7. snowwy

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    I love clean air.

    It's nice being able to see the mountains and not breathe the stinky crap.

    I remember when California had that mandatory stay home week with the refinery explosion.

    You could see the sky. And it was totally blue.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    Not to make this political, I feel I have to explain my position better.

    The real problem is the feds are supposed to make sure the markets are open to all other states with no exceptions at all.

    They have a duty under the interstate commerce clause (ICC) to stop states like California from telling foreign (other states) individuals they can not drive in California. This means that CARB is unconstitutional when it comes to the fee and mileage limitations placed on foreign (other states) trucks.

    See we already had an agreement with all 50 states and the territories about uniform equipment standards, and that is because the feds under the ICC told the states either you do it or we do it, and you won't like what we do, so the states agreed to use SAE standards and it was codified in federal code after the agreement was reached with all the states - this happened in 1948.

    Since we have enjoyed that latitude to go where we want without worry about being ill-equipped o our cars and trucks.

    So when Carb and California restrict access to their markets, it first violates that 1948 agreement but it also prevents someone from entering the state to access the state's markets.

    What I mean by markets is the access to work within the state or bringing in or exiting with a load.

    I also can mean that if I want to go and buy a truckload of avocados, (I know someone who does this regularly) and sell them in Michigan for 50¢ a piece, I should have no restrictions in accessing the market for avocados. But I am restricted if I don't abide by their standards.

    So the EPA and Congress have a duty to follow the ICC, because if they don't, the use of the clause for the gazillion other things is no longer valid due to the fact that its only purpose was to ensure access to another state's market and not to regulate anything else.
     
  9. snowwy

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    California has always been the leader in emissions. They're the strictest state.

    They were the first state to use the pcv in 1962.

    Everyone eventually follows.

    Remember when cars used to have stickers that stated California certified or federal certified.
     
  10. thatsright

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    Yea i take and drill those out. I dont have a newer car so it doesnt set a code.
     
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