Hey Wannabes! This ain't no candy store!!!!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JustSonny, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

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    Yea I get to sleep at my own apt every night and make more then all my Friends being that I'm only 20, but I work 10-16hrs a day 5 days a week second shift. 1:30pm until all the orders are picked and the trucks are all loaded in a 30-115 degree warehouse, no thanks lol

    I know I'm gonna take a pay cut a least for the first year but I'm not looking to go into trucking for the money.

    I like everything about trucking, I love the trucks, the weird schedule, the driving, traveling, the alone time, how trucking is a "lifestyle" as people like to say, getting to live the truckers life 24/7 is exciting to me, not having a 23 yr old boss with a on line bachelors degree yelling and screaming in my ear all day. And I'm at the top of the pay scale where I work, in trucking theres potential to make ALLOT more then $45,000/yr.

    Oh one more thing about my current job, after we slave all day picking the orders and loading the trucks, then next day our Penske Logistics Drivers come back an B***h and moan about how stuff was loaded wrong or fell over because they can't drive, lol

    I have really thought about this over the last 5 years or so and even more now that I'm giving up a good paying job. And I really think trucking is a better suit for me. I hope I'm making the right decision!

    I posted that thread the other day about whether or not you experienced drivers would do it all over again and most of you said you would and you still love trucking, where I work the FEW 2 or 3 people that have been there 10-36 yrs hate the place and are only still there because they have no where to go.

    Thanks for looking out for me Rollover I appreciate it! :biggrin_255:

    And if in a year from now I'm kicking myself for getting into trucking, feel free to say "I told you so" lol

    sorry for the long post.

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  3. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    I've been doing this wannabe gig for about 6 months. I'm hoping to put my due diligence efforts to work soon. One thing I know for sure and beyond a shadow of a doubt is.....there's a ton of carriers out there that hire newbies, but they are getting really picky. Maybe that's a good thing for the future of the industry, maybe not, I dunno! But, if I can pass along a tidbit or so, I'd like to do that.

    1) If a carrier doesn't have freight moving through you area, you can pretty much scratch them from you list of possibilities.

    2) If you aren't pure as the driven snow "prior employment-wise", "MVR-wise", "rap sheet-wise", "drug and alcohol-wise", "etc-wise", you've got an uphill battle worse than any uphill grade you are likely to encounter out there in the first seat. So, mind your Ps and Qs or fix your Ps and Qs, if you can, before standing in awe of the selection of "candies"!!!!!

    3) Check your potential carrier's SafeStat scores. It's not a "fail-safe" criterium, but I'm going with the assumption that I'll be pretty busy learning the ropes. I'd rather not be hamstrung because I'm with a carrier that is being scrutinized by DOTs, LEOs and the like because of poor safety performance.

    4) Download a copy of your state's CDL License Manual. You might have to go pick one up, but it's worth the time and investment to study up some before going headlong into this venture. Also, a driving school text can be purchased on line for about $15 (google Alice Adams (author) or J J Keller). Perusing or studying the CDL manual and the text PLUS research here on the forum will give you a head's up and a head start!

    5) I'm learning that it's a good idea to communicate with your recruiter via e-mail as much as possible. Three reasons:

    a) It allows the recruiter to respond to your requests, questions, etc. at their leisure, or at least at a time that is more convenient time for them.

    b) You'll have a "paper trail" of what you've asked, what the responses from the recruiter have been, the dates and times of the questions/answers, and the speed with which the recruiter responded. You're giving them some time to respond, yes, but not an unreasonable amount of time.

    c) If a recruiter will not communicate with you through email, especially with respect to issues that are particularly important to you, you might have a recruiter that doesn't want you to have a "paper trail". Know what I mean?

    6) This is a link to a good post from one of our members (Palazon). There's plenty of good posts, but this one caught my attention this morning: http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...mpany-provided-driver-school.html#post1308092

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  4. Ike

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    Since were all coming to jesus, Ive had my CDL for almost 7 years, just renewed last year, Have 3 years Regional Dry Van, and 2 years local (4 states) Flatbed. 3 speeding tickets (All in '07),
    1 Misdemeanor (Public Intox that I was not smart enough to fight, no breathalizer, blood test or Sobriety check, All I had was an open container)
    1 Accident that was not my fault (Was hit from behind and pushed into another vehicle) Not cited

    I have a + 5 Driving record (the best you can have in VA.), (thats 5 good points) because every year you go without violations you gain points.

    But the tickets are still listed and so is the accident. Virginia Law states that any accident that has a police report filed stays on your MVR for 41 months. Most companies ask if you have had any tickets in the last 3 years, Well next year I can truthfully answer No, but the older ones will still be on the MVR. Dont know how thats viewed.

    Anyway, Whattya think My chances are at gettin a job?

    Oh, I have never been fired from any job, Never a log violation, never failed a roadside inspection, never an overweight ticket. but I did quit my last driving job, (that I loved) due to family issues. But I really would like to get back to driving, even though Ive got a decent job.

    However, Im not activily persuing, just reading, and researching.
     
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  5. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    There's alot of different reasons for someone to start a driving career and some are good and some are just stupid. Whatever your reason your work ethics have a huge play in the outcome of your career. It's a very hard job to walk the line but if done the right way the payoffs are great.

    The reason I started a career driving was to reach my top goal and be comfortable when I stop driving. I've done that. I didn't live to work, I worked to live. I don't worry about medical insurance or where my next pay check is coming from. You need to plan ahead and do the best you can do so you can move up when the opportunities come your way. And just like Oldnew.. has stated the bare minimum items you've got seek the best for you.

    Even credit reports are being pulled by companies and examined for character status. Can you pay your bills on time. Are you so debt heavy that if an opportunity showed up would you steel? Believe me they look at this kind of stuff.

    If you go into this business with as much research you possible could have that FITS you and you try to do better the next day than the day before then I believe you'll have good work ethics. When it's time to sit back and retire you should have a plan in place to take care of yourself and anyone else that depends on you. Sure it takes a special kind of person to drive a truck but it's still a job and you're there to make a living and if you don't protect yourself by doing the job right then you're a fool and shouldn't even look at this business from the start.
     
  6. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    One of the carriers I applied to went back to my New York State MVR. I only held a license, not a commercial license, in NY from 1992-1995. Basically, they went back more than 15 years. Fortunately, both the license I have now (since 1995) and the NY license are clear.
    Carriers are looking at CSA 2010 up close and personal now. I've read a bunch of posts here that lead me to believe that it's tougher than ever before to get a start in driving or to get hired by another carrier if you quit one or are terminated by one.
     
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  7. gladiator

    gladiator Light Load Member

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    Well oldnewbiewannbe seems like you got your eyes wide open...But if I may add just one thing it would be get to know FMCR 395. For those not familiar thats the logging regulations. 'Cause not all "safety" instructors understand it. You would not believe the horror stories I've been told by new drivers..Every story started with "The way I was taught was" so take the time as new drivers to learn as much as you can.
     
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  8. thefather

    thefather Light Load Member

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    Thats great advice for anyone starting out! Its also a realistic way of looking at things


     
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  9. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    I got into HOS a little bit with the 20 or so samples given through the FMCSA site. It's confusing, for sure. I've had several members here give me some suggestions on how to look at HOS and it's getting a little clearer now every time I go back and look at the examples.

    I often wonder how many drivers have been put OOS for HOS violations simply because they didn't understand that they were doing something wrong.
     
  10. gladiator

    gladiator Light Load Member

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    Not sure the number of OOS violations, but seems D.O.T. watching HOS real close these days, I have always logged LEGAL, Way I see it a driver has 70 hrs per week. If a driver needs to work past that then they need to reevaluate their driving practice. Let's face it this is the only industry that overtime is against the law (LOL) I've heard over and over, "can't make a good living logging legal" I beg to differ, although some weeks are tougher than others, I work hard for the money and handing some over to a court for a log violation just does'nt sit well with me. Not to mention what I stand to loose taking care of it. Once while doing a sleepler split got stopped by DOT, officer looked at my logs and pointed out I had not taken a full 10 hour break, I told him I was doing a split. He said (get this) I know what it is, but don't understand how it works. So we had a mini class and now he knows, He thanked me and sent me on my way. It made me chuckle, but at the same time I helped him get a better view of drivers. Well I've made this long enough. Just treat yourself and others with respect and you will go far. Please don't listen to 90% of the BS you hear over the CB.
     
  11. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    If HOS confuses you, download the trial program of Daily Drivers Log (DDL). For the 1st 30 days it's free. It helped me figure it out plainly. Once I tossed it on a laptop, I never had another logbook problem.
     
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