Why a strike? The CSA 2010 will cripple trucking.

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by MCR6468, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. ironhand

    ironhand Light Load Member

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    Your right and that settles it. Nobody in here is ten foot tall and bullet proof. Sheeeeeezzz! "Man I'm so good I will never get pinched" What a crock:biggrin_2552:
     
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  3. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    good mourning: now i aparently i ruffeled some feathers from my post , well so be it , you still have not got a clue as to what im talking about.

    to start with i made no reference to any one my post was to all in trucking if the shoe fits to tight might buy another pair of shoes, don't don;t jump on me im not the one that is complainng.

    4.75 a gallon for fuel? just where do you buy fuel i don't pay that much . and you talk about big brother well your talking to the wong one, i don't do the big brother thing i don't asl big brother for a thing and i on't take anything from him either, but again i don't work for a company i work for me and no i do not get cheap pay checks i set the rate on my loads and i do quite well.

    now the speed limit i can't do anything about except ignore them and wil continue to do so , it's my truck and it's my right to do so if i get caught i pay the fine , as far as im concearned it's just another tax i have to pay and i pay it i can afford it , and you wont catch me whinning about it i just pay the bill and go on and do my thing, but i must be doing somthing right my cdl is clean, i think ill keep on doing it my way if its all the same to you.

    you get screwed every time you get in your truck? well now who's fault is that? it is your truck right , you make the decisions right so if you get screwed who's fault is it mine or yours, and your mad at me because i don't complain well thats all right i guess but in truth i've never seen a complaint pay a bill.

    i make the same as what i did in the 70's,? my friend your way out of touch if i don't make money i don't run period and i havent made what we made in the 70's sinch the 70's and i don't plan to star like i said drivers make the business the business does not make the driver.

    now it was not my intent to make anybody mad all i did was tell it just like it is and i did not lie what i stated was facts, getting the goverment or a union envolved in this business will only make thigs worse, most of us are in this business in the first place to be independent , with the freedom to conduct OUR busineess the way we choose and we don't want or need anyones help sure some of us fail but we have the freedom to pick ourselves up and try again and when we do fail not many hear about it we just keep gong till we get it right. me im not perfect i've failed before i even lost two trucks to the finance company but that was before i learned about a finance company, now they cant touch any truck that i have simply because i don't deal witrh them these trucks are mine they may not be new but they are mine and looking to buy 5 more. and i can assure you my young friend the goverment , or the union , had nothing to do with it . i did it myself period, but it did take years to figure out the right way to do things.

    if your having so much troubel it might just be that your trying to do it the wrong way and that by no means mean your bad or your truck is bad it simply means your doing business the wrong way, if your not making money your simply doing it wrong.

    more then likly your leased to a company, that dosent work for very long , they make the money all you get is just enough to keep you hangin on and that simply means you need to make a change if you don't then you will keep making the same , and getting mad at me won't change a thing only you can do that. thats what i mean by drivers making the business as long as a driver is willing to put up with it thats how long you have to put up with it ONLY A DRIVER CAN CHANGE HIS DESTINEY.

    like i said if your having that kind of troubel you need to make a change and only you can do it , all you have to do is do it . if there is any way i can help ill be glad to help you, i i can ill help you or any diver out there but getting mad at me won't change a thing .

    i wish you the ver best. southernpride:biggrin_25514::biggrin_25514::biggrin_25514:
     
  4. ironhand

    ironhand Light Load Member

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    Heard truckers today on the CB talking about this stuff and one mentioned that drivers record will retro 3 years back and those issues will be converted to this new point system. Any truth to this?:biggrin_25510:
     
  5. trucker900

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    VERY WELL PUT!:yes2557:
     
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  6. trucker900

    trucker900 Light Load Member

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    :yes2557: YES SIR.
     
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  7. trucker900

    trucker900 Light Load Member

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    I am a L/O and I too am doing just fine. I started with $2000 in my pocket a year and a half ago and have around $17,000 now. Thats counting all monies in five different accounts, like my maintenance account, my tax account, my checking account, my savings account, my excessive mileage account and bond which gets interest and helps purchase truck at the end. Now truth be told my wife is a genius when it comes to the money and I handle operations. We communicate very well, most in writing which always CYA'S. Have my own business stationary and handle it like I would handle any business. It is all up to me, I can roll over and play dead or work it. Complaining does not get anyone miles, I do my job and I am working for myself, so it is up to me. I was a O/O in household moving back in the early 90's, and I did very well at that until companies started giving big discounts, so I got out. Running for yourself is hard work and lots more work than being a company driver, but I would rather be my own boss and as I said I am doing quite well.:yes2557::biggrin_255::biggrin_25519:
     
  8. Thereyago

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    Yes it will, it will also assign points whether you are cited or not. For example I had points taken for getting stopped and passing a level 1. I got points taken off since the reason the officer put for stopping me was speeding even though I wasn't and he didn't cite me for it.

    They will be taking off points for accidents whether they are you fault or not.

    I highly recommend any driver check this out.

    Here are some thoughts from my homestate that has been having to use this system

    http://www.mntruck.org/newsroom/mtanews_files/2d725eb370aaf7692c9ac0b12018e50d-12.html

    According to the CSA 2010 methodology, the Crash Indicator is determined by an algorithm that incorporates “Accidents” as defined by 390.5 and the number of trucks a motor carrier claims to operate.
    Every day in this country, commercial motor vehicles (CMVs), are involved in crashes. More often than not, the cause of the crash lies with the driver of a passenger vehicle involved. There are many instances where the CMV was legally parked, unoccupied, and someone in a private passenger vehicle loses control and hits or somehow involves the CMV in their crash. All of these “recordable crashes” are used in the Crash Indicator calculation.
    We do not believe a carrier or driver should be penalized for accidents which are determined to be non-preventable.
     
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  9. ironhand

    ironhand Light Load Member

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    Thank you for taking time to post this! Checked your link and all I can say is why go back into trucking? DOT compliance entry level pays 79K for only 40 hours a week with better benifits and an ironclad retirement. Because, I guess I'm stupid. I like trucks, not busting peoples balls trying to earn a living. Insurance comapnies are behind this whole "sting":biggrin_25510:
     
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  10. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    I printed a copy of your MN article. I'll read it tonight before I go to bed. Thanks for the link!
     
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  11. JustSonny

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    I read the MN Trucking Assn's CSA 2010 Task Force's letter to FMCSA last night. Valid points in it for sure, some of which FMCSA has admitted to having concerns about. A couple of the points were a little out of my reach of understanding because I haven't faced the issues brought up yet. I'm going to read the letter again to get a better understanding. It would be interesting to find out, and if I remember to do it I'm going to find out, if other state associations have presented similar letters to FMCSA. This is the first analysis/report I've read from a state that is one of the operational model test states. Thanks again for the link!
     
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