Start carrying a passport in the southwest

Was not busy right there in town (intersection, truck stop, post office) in the middle 50's. But, never knew when 2 BP's were lurking in the dark and throw a red spot out. Incoming road from Mexico to the south.

 

Ah, some common sense in the discussion. Real life is not exactly like a movie portrayal of "Reality".

 

I've watched enough "Sovereign Citizen" videos on YT to understand 1) just because it ought to be true doesn't mean that's how real life works, 2) having a long discussion where someone explains road-side their view to a cop over & over & over & over & over & over & over is usually a prelude to wearing handcuffs and getting a ride downtown, 3) If Oliver Wendel Douglas had to deal with the real world bureaucracy in Hooterville, so do the rest of us, 4) I just condemned the nation's population to centuries of gulag oppression by not volunteering to be handcuffed, ride downtown, and spend a night in jail at a citizenship checkpoint instead of answering a yes/no question and continuing my day.

 

As they say rights not used are rights lost. And these are pretty fundamental rights. If it's a matter of going to jail because you don't want to have your fundamental rights violated, then we've come a long way from where we should be and people need to make the sacrifices to bring us back.

 

I'm not disputing the accuracy of the information you posted. I am adding to the discussion by explaining the ACLU. 90% of Americans think the ACLU is one thing, because all they know about the organization is the name of the organization. The common and historically-incorrect popular view of the the ACLU is "they were probably started by some idealists and in recent years may have come to often, coincidentally, support Leftwing topics." ACLU were founded and serve the purposes of the original group. At no time in history has the ACLU been other than a selective commie pro-revolution lawfare unit of the Communist Party. Sometimes they advance CP goals by getting a victory for a rightwing group or individual, but mostly they serve CP goals by leftwing victories. The CP and ACLU have people inside the govt and outside the govt. ACLU people in govt and ACLU people outside of govt frequently orchestrate lawsuits, settlements, consent decrees to advance CP goals without announcing CP operations in the govt and in the US.

 

Most lawyers will tell you not to try your case on the road side.

 

I've seen 50-60 years of "fighting back" and "going along". I've seen 50 years of voting the right way. I've seen/heard 308 red lines crossed, which each one guaranteeing the next one crossed will spark violent backlash. THE MOST the non-Leftists will do is vote for POTUS and disagree with policy online. If saving the country could happen by voting in a primary election or voting for more than the one highest-ranking official on the ballot that is too much to ask. The side making noise about preserving something re-elect the same limp noodles after complaining about him/her for 5.5 years and then DEFEND that action as the only alternative. 50-100 years of the leftward ratchet is ignored while every red line crossed just resets the counter to zero on how many outrages must happen before the popular revolt happens. The "red line threat" is just some comforting words used to transition from being mad to doing nothing. "Imagine how insert-general/politician-from-past would react to X". It's groundhog day every day, every election, every red line. One side will do anything to win, ANYTHING. The other side will imagine resistance instead of resisting, and they always will choose to imagine instead of acting. No "outrage" generates more than watching TV harder, or posting online harder, or imagining what X would say about this outrage, harder., or promising to react to the next outrage, harder. Wash, rinse, repeat. I wish it was different. I've tried all the ways I know to change things. My money is on no-change, or very slight but temporary change, until the 50-100 year pattern resumes like a freight train going downhill. If the "addict" doesn't participate in "rehab" all of the interventions and "pamphlets" will have no effect.

 

For all the discussion about what should be, it should be repeated that the original point that drivers need to carry passports is, well, incorrect. I repeat:

 

Maybe, 3 or 4 years down the road, IF everything goes correctly. Sounds like a pretty poor way to make a buck.

Well, a cop can ASK anything he wants..........But if you are Latino, maybe it's a safety measure?

 

You can spend 5 seconds telling the officer "yes" when he asks if you are a citizen, or 2 hours in secondary inspection because you won't answer that simple question. The choice is yours.