A few questions on going Owner Operator

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Passoverlamb5, Mar 5, 2025.

  1. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    About to pull the trigger (30-60 days) and go owner op. starting my own authority. 3 years experience, decently mechanically inclined. I know it’s not the best time but I’m in a decent situation. No debt, low overhead for family situation (1100 $ for all bills per month) I have two questions.

    1. trucks I’m looking at are 2015-2017 freightliner cascadias. 25k cash with 700k on the clock. Is it in my best interest to delete asap?? I have some cash set aside for repairs (5k) but can’t handle anything serious for the first month until my funds start flowing (trying to stay off factoring, at least only factor enough for fuel).

    2. Im looking to drop 6k cash on a used dry van trailer to avoid leasing. Is this a bad idea??

    thanks guys.
     
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  3. Spyro2112

    Spyro2112 Medium Load Member

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    Nope nope nope, get something with warrenty. Factory. Anything less than 450000 maybe 5. International used trucks. Have warranty
     
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  4. Spyro2112

    Spyro2112 Medium Load Member

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    Rent van, better yet do power only. Pull van and load it
     
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  5. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    Sounds like decent advice. I’ve just heard such bad things about international. Do you know what their warranty is??

    I was going freightliner because I can do a lot of work myself. I just don’t have the cash to drop 50k on a truck with warranty left.
     
  6. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    Power only seems like such a small market. Also, I could be wrong but it seems like it’s hard to get into with a new authority. What is bad about a used trailer??
     
  7. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    If you don’t have 50k in the bank more than likely you’ll be out of business by the end of the year. Just the parts replacement on an engine rebuild of a worn out truck that you’re talking about buying could do it. Have you gotten an insurance quote? You need a big money just to pay that itself. I do not wish this upon you, but it’s the reality. Do you have a direct customer to earn all that income that you’re gonna need? You generally don’t start a business if you’re broke. I am assuming you are broke because you’re considering fracturing for Fuel.
     
  8. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    even doing my own repairs?? I could do most anything besides an engine overhaul. I do have a quote at 29k per year with cash for the first down payment. I do not have any direct customers, but my wife will network for me to start finding some asap. We’re based out of Macon, GA so good area for it. I’ve priced load board freight and could still be profitable even at $1.80 a mile, which even load board freight should be better than that most of the time. After ifta, plates, truck, trailer, and insurance I have 5k left. I would factor for fuel but nothing else, but after first month would be able to get off factoring lord willing.
     
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  9. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    You are discussing about purchasing a truck with a mileage criteria where it would need an engine rebuild. That’s where I got the information after 400,000 miles .You are discussing about purchasing a truck with a mileage criteria where it would need an engine rebuild. That’s where I got the information after 400,000 miles. The truck has almost no value. It will consume potentially more money than it will make. Traction control module, Variable geometry, Turbo actuator, rebuild kit, ECM, all of these are quite expensive before you even talk about labor. Also, are you gonna have income to pay potentially $28,000 a year insurance bill depending on where you want to start your business that total might be double the price or a bit lower. I am not trying to tell you it’s impossible to succeed starting a trucking company. It is very possible to succeed however, it is very difficult. If you don’t have direct customers, no exactly what you’re getting into and have assets. Do you own properties that you can sell for the funding your business will need? Borrowing money to start a business that does not have direct customers is generally not going to work. Starting out with equipment that isn’t brand new and has a lot of life in it so you can serve your customers. It is usually not a good plan either. There’s a reason why trucking companies push off their equipment to lease purchase or just sell out right at auctions at 400 K. I am just scratching the surface. Do you also have money for lawsuits? Do you have plans to collect unpaid invoices. List goes on and on.. owning a trucking company, i.e. having your authority you are a business person first. If you don’t have have/ make business You’re more likely to a dreamer that will take cheap freight and go out of business. Trucking is one of the easiest business to get into and probably one of the most hardest to succeed at.
     
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  10. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    I understand what you’re saying, it’s good advice that I’m heeding. So the plan would be to buy the truck, and let my brother in law who is a diesel mechanic delete it and get it road ready if it needs anything. If it did need an engine overhaul I would think a dyno test would show that before I bought it. My understanding is that most of the problems a truck with that mileage will have is emissions related, any other problems that are not major I can do myself.

    with all due respect, I think it’s just as bad of idea to start a company with debt on a newer truck. Debt=risk, so at least with a paid off truck and trailer my emergency fund should be 10k after the first month. I know it’s risky, but so is buying a brand new truck. Owning any company is risky.
     
  11. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    I understand the risk, I am willing to take the risk. I am business minded. I file quarterly’s, know how to use excel, and understand the lanes and market sentiment right now. I asked the two questions in my OP because they are the questions I need advice on. If my business fails then I’m still debt free and can go back to company driving.
     
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