Snackbar is chillin'....at Shaffer

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  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    At the heart of the problem it is, because Snackbar knew what the company philosophy was when he came back the third time. Or at least he should have.

    More largely, it's a question of "running hard" versus "running smart".

    Last year I did a run out to LA with another driver - call him Bob. Bob was a newer driver, but thought he was an effective driver because he ran on the 10 and burned out his 70. Bob was driving hard, but wasn't driving smart. On the way out to LA, the first day we stayed mostly together but I was parked about 15-20 minutes before Bob. On the second day Bob started 30 minutes before me but I was parked for more than an hour before Bob rolled in. I got nervous at the rapidly filling lot and uncoupled so I could save a spot for him. Third day, I had him lead through the mountains so I wouldn't out run him again and could help him if we needed to chain. Day 4 I lost him in the first 30 miles and despite taking an hour long nap still made it to the truck stop ahead of Bob. Day 5 I again made him lead until we got to LA as we weren't going to a 'truck friendly' area and he was a little apprehensive. Offload and he goes to the hotel for 2 days while I head to some friends. On the day we leave, I supervise the reloading of the trailers between 2200 and midnight. At midnight, he wants to roll and I'm "why?, it's not going to change the end time of the load", but he wants to 'run hard so he can get another load before the weekend'. I help him get out of the lot and go to bed for 6 hours. I took a nice midday nap and then called it an early night, and as I rolled in to the truck stop I saw Bob's truck. We talk about our plans for the next day and he's planing on running early, and I'm going to start at 0500ish. I catch Bob as we're approaching Denver. We both stop at the Loves on the east side of town - me because I need to pee, Bob because he's out of hours. I run another 100 miles up the road. Same story the next day - Bob runs on his 10 while I take a 12 hour break and I'm shut down further up the road. On the last day I get up early because once this load is done I'm going home, but have a relaxed trip and was dropped before Bob rolls in.

    When all was said and done, we drove the same number of miles with the same loads. I left six hours behind Bob, finished 30 minutes earlier while using less fuel and having more time on my 11/14/70. By the time we were done, his 11 and 14 were at a point that there was nothing he could move on until the next morning, and by that point it would make more sense to finish a 34. Bob drove hard - not smart. In short - it's not just picking up and delivering on time, it's about using your time efficiently and effectively to set yourself up for success. From his posts it seems like SSB drives hard even when he knows it's against his interests.

    When I was OTR, my first load out of the house usually was to Nelly's Landing, delivering by 10:00 on Day 2. I could easily make delivery on Day 1 (even in a 60 mph truck), but I learned it was better to set my ETA and PTA for the next day. Why? Because if I set my ETA and PTA for Day 1, the planner/computer thought "oh, he doesn't have enough time to move on anything, let's wait until morning to assign him". If I showed delivering and available early morning on Day 2, most often I would be assigned midway through Day 1. That would allow me to adjust my plans to make the most of Day 2 - either by pushing or easing up.

    There are times a driver needs to put on his big boy pants and push things to the limit, and there are times when it makes more sense to take it easy. There were reasons why I was a top earner and none of them were because "sucked up to management" or "told little white lies" for referral fees. It was because I learned the system and how to make it work for me. When management changed the system to something I couldn't work with, I found a new gig. There are a lot of things I don't like about my new job, but I knew I wouldn't like them going in (well, most of them). It is what it is and I don't expect the company to change their ways to suit me.
     
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  3. mitrucker

    mitrucker Road Train Member

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    Ding ding ding!!!!! Private fleet driving is the way to go.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    My first guess would’ve been that “Bob” has a problem keeping the left door shut. I’ve seen his type before. They always have to pull into every truck truck yelling “hey, look at me. I’m Mr. OTR trucker, and this load goes clear across the country…”, even though it only goes from Dallas to Ft. Worth. :rolleyes:

    “I’ve been everywhere man, I’ve been everywhere…”
     
  5. BM 58

    BM 58 Road Train Member

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    I’ve worked for a private fleet for 12 years in the DFW area. 5 days a week no slip seating no fuel solutions or other micromanaging bs. 85K a year. If Snackbar could find a gig like that in his area that had good ins he may not despise being home more often like he does.
     
  6. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    There is no way in this job market they will hire a job hopper. It cost an avg of 5-10k to hire a new driver. A decent company will not take that gamble on a guy that changes jobs every 6-12 months. Pretty soon if not already he has limited himself to mega otr life.
     
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  7. Trashtrucker1707

    Trashtrucker1707 Road Train Member

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    @BM 58 I know your posts are blocked from @supersnackbar but the man clearly explained why the OTR lifestyle fits his needs, he sees it as a way to have more consecutive days off to get things done around the house, it might not be your cup of tea, or mine, but thats what works for him, at least that’s the way I understood it.
     
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  8. BM 58

    BM 58 Road Train Member

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    Here lies the problem. About all of OTR jobs that fits his gone forever lifestyle are just the mega operations like he works for. Those have all had a bad ending for him.
     
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  9. Trashtrucker1707

    Trashtrucker1707 Road Train Member

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    Not disagreeing with you @BM 58 just stating his, or what I understand, is his reasoning for the OTR lifestyle working better.
     
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    Options exist for more than a few/several days off here and there w/o staying out 6-10 weeks. Comes down to personal choice. Below is in addition to a Regional 5/2, 5/3 or 6/3 schedule. Theoretically one could take off 8 times for 4 days consecutively off (2 days off combined with 2 days PTO) plus a full week off every year. Or five 5 days off consecutively 5 times per year plus a full week off. @rollin coal would know the details better

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