Stevens is going paperless

Since you don't enter the public streets to do this, it doesn't have to be logged as on duty. The failsafe of V4 is speed. It does not require you to log on duty if you travel 15mph or less. I think there's a distance or time involved too, but I don't know. However, you can move all over a truck stop for service, fueling, parking, etc without a problem.

 

Maxwell....do you realize how many false hoods you have stated in this thread alone?

Saying I have to stop driving at 10.5 hours so I have to have .5 hours to do a PTI?

It all depends on what parameters the company chooses to set up inside the data logger, how far one can move the truck. There is no law or regulation governing this movement at this time, so a tight interpretation of the law, truck moves you are on line 3. Stevens started their test this way.

I know you are trying to give information that you think is correct, but your credibility is dropping quickly with all the misstatements you have made, and stating you can travel 15 mph or less and not log it. That is one option, but NOT a requirement.

 

With that said - how do you see the impact of this effecting your ability to make money?

 

the 15mph is a qualcom thing in the software. I didn't mean to imply it was a DOT rule or stevens rule.
the 10.5 and .5 is what I was called into safety over a couple months back. it they give you different parameters, then that's the way it is for you. I just know what I was told.
sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

Lots of misinformation from maxwell. And not even shy about giving it.

 

Do you keep the facts question on your clipboard to paste to every response?

Here's what's on my clipboard.

FMCSA HOS regulations part 395.2 the relevant part to our discussion. Read it carefully and you may find your answer and the "FACTS"

On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

(4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth;



(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;

(8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and

(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.

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Them's the facts jack

 

The system allows for about two miles at less than 15mph without going to driving. This within normal business practice, but believe it or not, even with paperless logs, not entirely legal.

However, most companies including stevens allow for certain realities of life. One is that someone may have you move your truck.

To make it legal though, you can log it (on paper legally) as multiple stops in he same city. That is, add up all the time spent driving and all the on duty time and tack that on after the end of your 10 hour break.

Normal practice that people have is to keep track of time spent at the shipper and also include an experience based estimate on what it will take them to buton up the truck and exit. Then log all that time at the arrival.

Hopefully I didn't confuse anyone there.

 

And under DOT and Stevens policies, you were told wrong. or you heard it wrong, or you were up against your 70 hours.

You can drive all 11 hours, do it many times a week, then log a 30 minute post trip, fuel your truck, get repairs done, all on line 4 after your 11 is up, even after your 14 is up, even after your 70 is up. The 11, 14, 70 only regulate when you can drive.

WGCarver is using the current system, and runs legal.

Won't affect my ability to make money either way....I run legal now.

 

Stop trolling. If you want to harp on people for not giving references, go proofread wikipedia. You'll be happy for the rest of your life.