No Restroom wth???? Has it happened to you?

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  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Woman started the whole thing as they wanted privacy! I need walls! :biggrin_2559: They'll gossip and watch each other go, but see a man do it, Oh gross! :)

    I think the French have open unisex bathrooms and it's no big deal, just whip er out :).

    I'm a country boy. Any tree is a good place. I have diabetes and when you have to go, you have to go. You don't have the luxury of holding it anymore.

    I think OSHA has laws stating all businesses and places of work must have bathrooms. Problem is many of our customers exempt us as we aren't employees.
     
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  3. pxpx

    pxpx Bobtail Member

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    i deliver to a place that wont let you use their restrooms (millenium steel princeton in) and they will ban you if you are caught using the outdoors. total b.s. but what can you do? think i will try to get that guys hardhat to poop in if i need to. lol
     
  4. StormDancer

    StormDancer Bobtail Member

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    Good Grief !!!!! You have way to much time on your hands or spend to much time camped out in the "J". I would love to see you take a picture like that and post it on your trailer, the web, or anywhere else !!! I can hear the lawyers going Cha Ching !!! And this time I would agree with them. Admittedly it is a disgusting and ignorant behavior but until some swears you in as the "pee patrol" I would stick to -----------Keeping it between the lines !

    Storm
     
  5. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    I've run across more places lately that either have the restrooms closed in the middle of the day for "cleaning" when they're busy as hell or don't have them at all. Truck stops, I mean, with no bathroom at all. :biggrin_2556:
     
  6. superchicken

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    The osha rule for toilet is below. Read and see if you can make any since of it.

    Code of Federal Regulations]
    [Title 29, Volume 5]
    [Revised as of July 1, 2009]
    From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
    [CITE: 29CFR1910.141]

    [Page 453-456]

    TITLE 29--LABOR

    CHAPTER XVII--OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT
    OF LABOR

    PART 1910_OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH STANDARDS--Table of Contents

    Subpart J_General Environmental Controls

    Sec. 1910.141 Sanitation.

    Authority: Sections 4, 6, and 8 of the Occupational Safety and
    Health Act of 1970 (29 U.S.C. 653, 655, 657); Secretary of Labor's Order
    No. 12-71 (36 FR 8754), 8-76 (41 FR 25059), 9-83 (48 FR 35736), 1-90 (55
    FR 9033), 6-96 (62 FR 111), 3-2000 (65 FR 50017), or 5-2007 (72 FR
    31159), as applicable.
    Sections 1910.141, 1910.142, 1910.145, 1910.146, and 1910.147 also
    issued under 29 CFR part 1911.


    (a) General--(1) Scope. This section applies to permanent places of
    employment.
    (2) Definitions applicable to this section.
    Nonwater carriage toilet facility, means a toilet facility not
    connected to a sewer.
    Number of employees means, unless otherwise specified, the maximum
    number of employees present at any one time on a regular shift.
    Personal service room, means a room used for activities not directly
    connected with the production or service function performed by the
    establishment. Such activities include, but are not limited to, first-
    aid, medical services, dressing, showering, toilet use, washing, and
    eating.
    Potable water means water which meets the quality standards
    prescribed in the U.S. Public Health Service Drinking Water Standards,
    published in 42 CFR part 72, or water which is approved for drinking
    purposes by the

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    State or local authority having jurisdiction.
    Toilet facility, means a fixture maintained within a toilet room for
    the purpose of defecation or urination, or both.
    Toilet room, means a room maintained within or on the premises of
    any place of employment, containing toilet facilities for use by
    employees.
    Toxic material means a material in concentration or amount which
    exceeds the applicable limit established by a standard, such as
    Sec. Sec. 1910.1000 and 1910.1001 or, in the absence of an applicable
    standard, which is of such toxicity so as to constitute a recognized
    hazard that is causing or is likely to cause death or serious physical
    harm.
    Urinal means a toilet facility maintained within a toilet room for
    the sole purpose of urination.
    Water closet means a toilet facility maintained within a toilet room
    for the purpose of both defecation and urination and which is flushed
    with water.
    Wet process means any process or operation in a workroom which
    normally results in surfaces upon which employees may walk or stand
    becoming wet.
    (3) Housekeeping. (i) All places of employment shall be kept clean
    to the extent that the nature of the work allows.
    (ii) The floor of every workroom shall be maintained, so far as
    practicable, in a dry condition. Where wet processes are used, drainage
    shall be maintained and false floors, platforms, mats, or other dry
    standing places shall be provided, where practicable, or appropriate
    waterproof footgear shall be provided.
    (iii) To facilitate cleaning, every floor, working place, and
    passageway shall be kept free from protruding nails, splinters, loose
    boards, and unnecessary holes and openings.
    (4) Waste disposal. (i) Any receptacle used for putrescible solid or
    liquid waste or refuse shall be so constructed that it does not leak and
    may be thoroughly cleaned and maintained in a sanitary condition. Such a
    receptacle shall be equipped with a solid tight-fitting cover, unless it
    can be maintained in a sanitary condition without a cover. This
    requirement does not prohibit the use of receptacles which are designed
    to permit the maintenance of a sanitary condition without regard to the
    aforementioned requirements.
    (ii) All sweepings, solid or liquid wastes, refuse, and garbage
    shall be removed in such a manner as to avoid creating a menace to
    health and as often as necessary or appropriate to maintain the place of
    employment in a sanitary condition.
    (5) Vermin control. Every enclosed workplace shall be so
    constructed, equipped, and maintained, so far as reasonably practicable,
    as to prevent the entrance or harborage of rodents, insects, and other
    vermin. A continuing and effective extermination program shall be
    instituted where their presence is detected.
    (b) Water supply--(1) Potable water. (i) Potable water shall be
    provided in all places of employment, for drinking, washing of the
    person, cooking, washing of foods, washing of cooking or eating
    utensils, washing of food preparation or processing premises, and
    personal service rooms.
    (ii) [Reserved]
    (iii) Portable drinking water dispensers shall be designed,
    constructed, and serviced so that sanitary conditions are maintained,
    shall be capable of being closed, and shall be equipped with a tap.
    (iv) [Reserved]
    (v) Open containers such as barrels, pails, or tanks for drinking
    water from which the water must be dipped or poured, whether or not they
    are fitted with a cover, are prohibited.
    (vi) A common drinking cup and other common utensils are prohibited.
    (2) Nonpotable water. (i) Outlets for nonpotable water, such as
    water for industrial or firefighting purposes, shall be posted or
    otherwise marked in a manner that will indicate clearly that the water
    is unsafe and is not to be used for drinking, washing of the person,
    cooking, washing of food, washing of cooking or eating utensils, washing
    of food preparation or processing premises, or personal service rooms,
    or for washing clothes.
    (ii) Construction of nonpotable water systems or systems carrying
    any other nonpotable substance shall be such as to prevent backflow or
    backsiphonage into a potable water system.

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    (iii) Nonpotable water shall not be used for washing any portion of
    the person, cooking or eating utensils, or clothing. Nonpotable water
    may be used for cleaning work premises, other than food processing and
    preparation premises and personal service rooms: Provided, That this
    nonpotable water does not contain concentrations of chemicals, fecal
    coliform, or other substances which could create insanitary conditions
    or be harmful to employees.
    (c) Toilet facilities--(1) General. (i) Except as otherwise
    indicated in this paragraph (c)(1)(i), toilet facilities, in toilet
    rooms separate for each sex, shall be provided in all places of
    employment in accordance with table J-1 of this section. The number of
    facilities to be provided for each sex shall be based on the number of
    employees of that sex for whom the facilities are furnished. Where
    toilet rooms will be occupied by no more than one person at a time, can
    be locked from the inside, and contain at least one water closet,
    separate toilet rooms for each sex need not be provided. Where such
    single-occupancy rooms have more than one toilet facility, only one such
    facility in each toilet room shall be counted for the purpose of table
    J-1.

    Table J-1
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Minimum
    number of
    Number of employees water
    closets
    \1\
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 to 15..................................................... 1
    16 to 35.................................................... 2
    36 to 55.................................................... 3
    56 to 80.................................................... 4
    81 to 110................................................... 5.
    111 to 150.................................................. 6
    Over 150.................................................... (\2\)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    \1\ Where toilet facilities will not be used by women, urinals may be
    provided instead of water closets, except that the number of water
    closets in such cases shall not be reduced to less than \2/3\ of the
    minimum specified.
    \2\ 1 additional fixture for each additional 40 employees.

    (ii) The requirements of paragraph (c)(1)(i) of this section do not
    apply to mobile crews or to normally unattended work locations so long
    as employees working at these locations have transportation immediately
    available to nearby toilet facilities which meet the other requirements
    of this subparagraph.
    (iii) The sewage disposal method shall not endanger the health of
    employees.
    (2) Construction of toilet rooms. (i) Each water closet shall occupy
    a separate compartment with a door and walls or partitions between
    fixtures sufficiently high to assure privacy.
    (ii) [Reserved]
    (d) Washing facilities--(1) General. Washing facilities shall be
    maintained in a sanitary condition.
    (2) Lavatories. (i) Lavatories shall be made available in all places
    of employment. The requirements of this subdivision do not apply to
    mobile crews or to normally unattended work locations if employees
    working at these locations have transportation readily available to
    nearby washing facilities which meet the other requirements of this
    paragraph.
    (ii) Each lavatory shall be provided with hot and cold running
    water, or tepid running water.
    (iii) Hand soap or similar cleansing agents shall be provided.
    (iv) Individual hand towels or sections thereof, of cloth or paper,
    warm air blowers or clean individual sections of continuous cloth
    toweling, convenient to the lavatories, shall be provided.
    (3) Showers. (i) Whenever showers are required by a particular
    standard, the showers shall be provided in accordance with paragraphs
    (d)(3) (ii) through (v) of this section.
    (ii) One shower shall be provided for each 10 employees of each sex,
    or numerical fraction thereof, who are required to shower during the
    same shift.
    (iii) Body soap or other appropriate cleansing agents convenient to
    the showers shall be provided as specified in paragraph (d)(2)(iii) of
    this section.
    (iv) Showers shall be provided with hot and cold water feeding a
    common discharge line.
    (v) Employees who use showers shall be provided with individual
    clean towels.
    (e) Change rooms. Whenever employees are required by a particular
    standard to wear protective clothing because of the possibility of
    contamination with toxic materials, change rooms equipped with storage
    facilities for

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    street clothes and separate storage facilities for the protective
    clothing shall be provided.
    (f) Clothes drying facilities. Where working clothes are provided by
    the employer and become wet or are washed between shifts, provision
    shall be made to insure that such clothing is dry before reuse.
    (g) Consumption of food and beverages on the premises--(1)
    Application. This paragraph shall apply only where employees are
    permitted to consume food or beverages, or both, on the premises.
    (2) Eating and drinking areas. No employee shall be allowed to
    consume food or beverages in a toilet room nor in any area exposed to a
    toxic material.
    (3) Waste disposal containers. Receptacles constructed of smooth,
    corrosion resistant, easily cleanable, or disposable materials, shall be
    provided and used for the disposal of waste food. The number, size, and
    location of such receptacles shall encourage their use and not result in
    overfilling. They shall be emptied not less frequently than once each
    working day, unless unused, and shall be maintained in a clean and
    sanitary condition. Receptacles shall be provided with a solid tight-
    fitting cover unless sanitary conditions can be maintained without use
    of a cover.
    (4) Sanitary storage. No food or beverages shall be stored in toilet
    rooms or in an area exposed to a toxic material.
    (h) Food handling. All employee food service facilities and
    operations shall be carried out in accordance with sound hygienic
    principles. In all places of employment where all or part of the food
    service is provided, the food dispensed shall be wholesome, free from
    spoilage, and shall be processed, prepared, handled, and stored in such
    a manner as to be protected against contamination.

    [39 FR 23502, June 27, 1974, as amended at 40 FR 18446, April 28, 1975;
    40 FR 23073, May 28, 1975; 43 FR 49748, Oct. 24, 1978; 63 FR 33466, June
    18, 1998]
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    Easy. It pertains to an employer and the employees of that business. What does it have to do with the truck driver who is not an employee of their business?
     
  8. RAILSPLITTER

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    Not a God-###### thing, unfortunately... that's why God created piss jugs and Walmart crap-sacks... 10?
     
  9. superchicken

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    When you are at a shipper and currently being unloaded truck must remain with trailer and trailer is being unloaded or worked on. Then i would walk inside shipper or receiver and ask if you may use a restroom if they deny the use of a restroom and you are getting sick from holding it. Do one of two things one call 911 and have an ambulance show up which will cause the warehouse manager and his boss to show up to see why you called them. The medical crew will then probably force the business to let you use the restroom which will be documented for a lawyer/law suit with the business. The second is you have to go you have to go and drop your pants and let it rip right on there floor were they walk the most and you should call 911 since you will be in alot of pain from your intestines bursting.
    Holding pee or poo is not healthy and will cause problems when you get up in the years. We as drivers need to refuse to go to these places but we need a paycheck also. I personally am sick and tired of trucking period i would rather live on social security disability than put up with all this bs. Good luck and keep complaining on this website and kiss ### when at customer site. Because that is what all you puss@ drivers do complain and kiss ###. Have fun.
     
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  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Calling 911 for a non emergency?

    You are joking I hope. There are laws about this.
     
  11. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    I have had my wife riding with me for about a week now. Seems like most places are much more accomodating for her, even when "closed" for the night.

    I also picked up a urine bottle with a female adapter at Gander Mountain, which she has only had to use once while camped out at a shipper. This is fine for #1 but not #2 of course.
     
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