CSA 2010: The data
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rookietrucker, Oct 30, 2009.
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Can you point me to the part in CAS2010 about drivers having a score?zentrucking and JustSonny Thank this. -
http://csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/Whats_new.aspx
Click on June 2010!
Last edited: Jun 9, 2010
jtrnr1951 and 07-379Pete Thank this. -
I have my company's password to CSA2010's website and all it is is a made over SafeStat website with the drivers Inspections broke down into seven Categories.
Unsafe Driving
Fatigued Driving (Hours-of-Service)
Driver Fitness
Controlled Substances/Alcohol
Vehicle Maintenance
Cargo-Related
Crash
Other than that the name of the driver and his/her info is there on the inspection reports unlike SafeStat.JustSonny and AfterShock Thank this. -
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I worked in Trucking for 21 years and I can only think of about two or three carriers that follow the rules. Some of what is suppose to be the best don't follow the rules. They get by with it...because they are politically connected.
I know several excellent drivers but they are in just as much danger of being canned as those that are sorry. All carriers have their pets. These are the ones that get their trucks turned up, get more miles, get better loads and get their trucks worked on. They are also usually the ones that have an attitude and have the opinion that everyone else is a sorry driver.
They are also usually the ones that kiss up.
There are drivers that are forced to drive more miles in a day than humanly possible and if they don't cut it...they are fired. There are companies that will send out equipment in need of repair because it's the only trailer they have available or they just don't care. Then the driver will take the fall for it. If the driver won't go with the bad trailer or truck they will just find a reason to fire them. The carriers are not going to take the fall for this.
Face it...just in time freight has created part of this monster by pushing the carriers to push the drivers too hard. If the carrier don't perform to suit the shipper then they will change carriers. If the driver don't do what the carrier wants then they will fire him. If the feds want to fix this problem, they need to start with the shippers.
This law is going to add to the already high unemployment rate and allow for Illegals and Aliens to take over the trucking industry far as drivers are concerned.
With trucking companies dropping there trailers all over the country there is no way these trailers will be perfect and some driver is going to take the fall for poor upkeep. Example is the many trailers that were sitting in the flood path in Nashville. How many of you want to go pick up a trailer that has been sitting in water for days? How many companies do you think sent a work crew to Nashville to go over those trailers and make sure they were road ready. Well I can tell you a few that didn't. So whose fault is that going to be. You going to take the blame for that.
Even if you are not a driver and you sit in the office like I did, you are not stupid you know this is all true.
This law is going to be a death sentence for everyone. The carriers will be hurting for drivers, the prices of goods will have to go up and employment is going up.
Worse part of this deal is that many drivers that will lose their jobs don't have any other training. They have been drivers for so many years that they are just messed up.
If you weigh 170 lbs. and don't have any health issues and can manage to work with new equipment...you will probably make it as long as you can stay up for days without sleep, fudge on your logs, and do trailer and truck repairs yourself.
Keep in mind that when all these drivers lose their jobs...the buck will be on the "good" drivers to pick up the slack until more drivers are trained.
So...how long can you dodge the bullet and not get points taken away.
AND...if the health requirements are false that I talk about...some carriers sure spent a lot of money putting out CD to their drivers...that give the details.AfterShock, zentrucking and scottied67 Thank this. -
All I know for sure is the Blitz missed me.....
So far I almost always have a legal log, with a few exceptions that will not happen again.
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I don't necessarily see CSA as a bad thing. A lot of companies have crazy high SEA numbers on SafeStat, then get hit with a random audit. Most just pay the fines, and it's business as usual. In an audit, DOT inspectors aren't so much concerned with the problem, as they are what you're doing to correct it.
In CSA, rather than DOT running random audits, they'll be able to toss out a warning letter telling carriers exactly what the problem is so they can get it fixed. If they don't, then they get hit with an audit, and the auditor knows exactly what area they are going to go over with a fine tooth comb. The carrier is then walking on thin ice, and should be taking aggressive steps to fix the problem.
Carriers won't have a rating based on a compliance review; their ratings will change monthly based on their SMS values. Before CSA, you have all these companies with a satisfactory rating, but an ISS value in the 90s. There's no real motivation to bring that number down if you have a satisfactory rating. Even though high numbers are an automatic inspect, most carriers just deal with it.
As far as drivers go, auditors can quickly find out who the culprit is because of their scores. It's in a company's best interest to find out what that driver is scoring high in, and fix it, or give them the boot, because that driver's score affects the company's. Since driver violations count against a company, company's will more than likely be quicker to respond to equipment problems. If a company has a notorious record for telling a driver to deal with the problem, and hope you don't get caught, it now affects the company's numbers if they do, and could trigger an intervention in that BASIC area if they don't get things fixed.
There are some things that may be flawed, and will probably be highlighted once this hits full on, but the 'outlaw' companies will be gone, and I personally say 'good riddance'.scottied67, AfterShock, AFSTruckerswife and 1 other person Thank this. -
I just think it's going to cause a huge Driver shortage. The first point that the company gets...that driver will be gone even if it's the company's fault and that driver runs more miles than any in their fleet. I also see drivers losing their jobs from not being in line with the BMI or having diabetes or high blood pressure even though it's treated and normal. There are skinny drivers with high blood pressure and diabetes.There are thousands of hard working drivers out there with truck driving being the only experience they have. Those that will be taking the heat for ill repaired trailers and trucks. Even the big guys have equipment that is in need of repair. I just see a lot of wives and children with no income on the horizon. Sorry...I realize some of you are working for carriers and only see it from your point of view.
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The rules have not changed. There is no new "BMI rule."southernpride and Dave 1960 Thank this.
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