Log book page retention

If you keep your log book clean, easily readable, updated most of the time they take a quick look and hand it back to you. The defense of making it sloopy and difficult to read just is like throwing a challenge out on the table. Bu a ruler, stop the truck, don't try to do your log in the scale line. And don't be a jerk to the cop trying to do his job.

 

How did you find out about the 4 log books? Just the fact that you found them tells me the driver is an idiot. Did he admit to it and show them, did they fall out of the cab? did you get in the truck and see em? Why did you even suspect them in that case? I used to have big stacks of logbooks in my truck...blank ones!

I'm going to be running paper logs and a tanker now. You know any load in a tanker is bad news in a wreck....doesnt have to be hazmat either. I think I'm going to stick to one logbook. Well, I'll be running loose leaf if the company is alright with it, but pretty much because i screw up a lotttttt...

Would you believe that i had a female DOT officer at the Perry POE in Utah tell me she preferred loose leaf logs? Said they were easier to put in the copying machine. I agreed, after having to fax a few logs to my company to replace lost pages..LOL....

Ive had people tell me its a $500 fine per page ripped out of the bound logbook. wtf?

I always wondered though, how that could be the case yet its ok to looseleaf? Hell, ive had a few guys tell me that it was illegal for me to tear the staples out of a bound logbook to make loose leaf. DOT never cared...and it was pretty obvious what i had done.

I never did understand why people log in the scale line, going down the road, etc....

if your log is not up to date you do not belong in a weigh station. Drive around it. Pull over before the scale and do the log on the side of the road. Seriously, wtf?

 

Technically speaking, you must retain the past 7 days logs. The current day you are on is not complete until midnight and is not considered a day until then. You have 13 days to send them to your company.

As far as ripping out pages, there is no set rule stating you can't. But flags fly when your book has many ripped out pages. My company like many scan the logs to the computer for record keeping. They must be correct to scan properly. So I do have to rip out pages to make corrections. But I recently found out that whiteout is acceptable and a better solution. There is a rule that if your electronic logs fail, you must reproduce the past 7 days on a paper log. Hence you are replicating.

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7 days plus the current day in the truck. Seven years for tax purposes since thats how far back the IRS can go.

 

The thread has come beyond full circle, so the only thing left is to start over. How long does a driver need to keep logs?

 

I agree, I use a bound book and tear the pages out each day. One copy for the cmpany and one copy in my file folder. The last 7 days I keep paper cliped together for inspections + the day I'm driving is on my clip board. Been doing that way for decades

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! Unreal isn't it?

 

For DOT, 7 days plus the day your drving, total of 8 days. For an IRS audit, 3years normally but 7 years to be safe

 

Well the dumb arse handed me two of them. It was the first of the month, and they were bound. thought he gave me the two months that had the last 7 days in them. When I looked at them and saw the same days I knew something was up. He knew his sheet was weak and said I'll be honest with ya and showed me the others. He had 4 log books with the same days in them. Why, I don't know. He confused the hell out of me and himself I think.

Yeh, when they are false it does make it easier to copy.

Truck stop lawyers. You really should not listen to them. They get more sheet started that a sheet pumper.