Retreads are not the problem

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  1. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Retreads/caps are NOT allowed on steer tires on trucks either. Must be virgin tires on the steers.
     
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  3. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Yes they are, A misconception exists that retreads are not allowed on the steering axle of any vehicle. The fact is, retreads can be used on the steering axle on any vehicle with the exception of a bus. Paragraph "d" of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulation Title 49 Part 393.75 states, "No bus shall be operated with re-grooved, recapped or retreaded tires on the front wheels."

    I don't know anyone who does this but it's not illegal. Again more internet ball park facts that have flooded this thread.
     
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  4. king Q

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    It all comes down to a couple of things. In the first life of the casing was it run correctly inflated and maintained properly,was the re cap done properly in a clean dust free facility,was the curing of the bond done to spec.If all these things are done correctly re caps are reliable.In the air craft industry they cap the tires up to 3 times then land 600000lbs plane caring hundreds of people on them at 175mph. My experience is that caps are good if done on your own casings.If you run on hot roads and at high speeds better to go with new.
     
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  5. rocknroll nik

    rocknroll nik High Risk Load Member

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    Sorry to dispute you but from your own link I will bold out sentence E.

    Miscellaneous parts and accessories

    §393.75 Tires. (a) No motor vehicle shall be operated on any tire that (1) has body ply or belt material exposed through the tread or sidewall, (2) has any tread or sidewall separation, (3) is flat or has an audible leak, or (4) has a cut to the extent that the ply or belt material is exposed.
    (b) Any tire on the front wheels of a bus, truck, or truck tractor shall have a tread groove pattern depth of at least 4/32 of an inch when measured at any point on a major tread groove. The measurements shall not be made where tie bars, humps, or fillets are located.
    (c) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, tires shall have a tread groove pattern depth of at least 2/32 of an inch when measured in a major tread groove. The measurement shall not be made where tie bars, humps or fillets are located.
    (d) No bus shall be operated with regrooved, recapped or retreaded tires on the front wheels.
    (e) A regrooved tire with a load-carrying capacity equal to or greater than 2,232 kg (4,920 pounds) shall not be used on the front wheels of any truck or truck tractor.


    the steers on a semi are to be no greater tan 12,000 lbs
    12,000 divided by 2 is 6000 per tire. Section e. states 4,920 lbs per tire if I am not mistaken......ergo thus you cannot use recraps on your steers

    So therefore it is illegal which is why all he cheap azzhats that own the companies can't use them....I know my cheap skate boss would use them if he could
     
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  6. CLC379

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    how about you take the time to read it yourself instead of getting on here asking everyone else to? if you want to claim you have read it why not go buy some recaps the weather is just right to test your theory.




    the recap industry had a bs rumor going around a few years ago claiming if you stop and inspect road gators and they have steel wires sticking out that it wasnt a recap that blew............the only truth to that is the fact that a cap cannot blow because it dont actually hold any air. they fool a lot of people with a few misleading statements.
     
  7. Superhauler

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    regrove tire is not a recap i dont see anything that says you cant run recaps on the steer. in my opinoin recaps are not worth the headache for a one truck operator. muti trucks maybe but they sure will replace alot of mudflap brackets and 1/4 fenders along with the recap.
     
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  8. rocknroll nik

    rocknroll nik High Risk Load Member

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    Well I stand corrected thank you but to me I think it's splitting hairs. There is no way on god's green earth I will ever put recraps on my steers, hell I wont put em on my drives, I have put them on the trailer but that was only because there wasnt a matched set ( or close enough)of used tires to use.
    I think it's kinda funny that SEVERAL of the articles I just looked up state that there are "regulations regarding the use of re-caps, regrooves, and retreads" but for the most part you can only find the statute on regrooves.

    But thanx again for correcting me. I just lump all that re stuff before the tire as re-fuse!!:biggrin_25525:
     
  9. Les2

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    Can you define short distances, low speeds, light loads for me?
     
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  10. angry_trucker

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    Any "study" that implies retreads are just as good as virgin tires is pure propaganda by the retread industry...its like Dracula telling you how secure your blood would be at his blood-bank.....
    I would hesitate to put retreads on anything but a shunt truck or maybe dedicated equipment that dosen't leave the 100 mile radius from its base...
     
  11. Jfaulk99

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    If you think it's splitting hairs I've got a re-grooving iron I'd love to have you try. $100 says you won't get 1/2 a tire done before you throw it in the dumpster and send the tire in to be capped!:biggrin_2559: What a crappy job!


    Well from what I hear on the CB radio 78k gross is a HEAVY load, most company trucks are maxed out at 65 and real drivers live in there trucks so...... under 5k miles?:biggrin_2556:
     
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