Hours of service questions and answers

What's a log jacket? Is that another way of saying tree bark?
If you're talking about the recap, waddaya having trouble with?

 

The original 14 hr will not be extended until after both the 8 and 2 hr breaks have been completed. You will get a 14 hr violation if the 2nd break isn't started by the end of the original 14. I suggest to our drivers if they do the split that the take the 2 hr off duty first, then at least 15 minutes before the original 14 hrs start the 8 hour sleeper. You then have the time to drive that is the difference from your 11 hours and whatever you drove between those two breaks.

 

r u sure bout that ?

thought the 8 stopped the 14 !!!

 

You're right hippy, it does. The 8-hour break doesn't count against the 14 hour clock. You do need to take that 2 hour break if you want to extend from the end of the 8-hour break. Otherwise, you need to take a 10-hour break before the end of the 14-hour period. In any case, you can't drive more than 11 hours total including both periods on either side of that 8-hour break.

You're right too auditor. But there are many instances when a run can't be completed without taking that 8-hour break first.

 

thats fine if you take the 8hr first. but then the 2hr will need to be started before the 14th ends. Yes, you will get a 14 violation if not. I see it all the time. Drivers don't start the second break until after the 14th and they are hit with a violation of the 14hr. rule.

 

Yeah... that will turn around and bite ya! "Ms. Elogs" - my new truckin' companion starts telling me about it an hour before my nice new truck turns into a pumpkin!

 

[FONT=&quot](g) Sleeper berths. (1) Property-carrying commercial motor vehicle.' (i) In General. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]A driver who operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle equipped with a sleeper berth, as defined in §§395.2 and 393.76 of this subchapter,[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot](g)(1)(i)(D) Must exclude from the calculation of the 14-hour limit any sleeper berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot](g)(1)(ii)(C) Calculation of the 14-hour limit includes all time except any sleeper-berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours; compliance [/FONT]

8 hour break stops the 14 hour clock, but not the 2 hour break. So, most drivers take the 8 first. I never heard that you couldn't do this, what regulation specifies it?

 

This just doesn't make any sense, unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to say.

Lets see; 11 hrs driving + 15 minute pretrip + 2 hour break= 13:15, stop 15 minutes before the 14 ends and you have 30 minutes left. Why would anyone split a break for 30 minutes?
That's not a split break, that is everyday logging!
:smt064

 

You're certainly not getting it. There's no "11 hrs driving" involved in dealing with a split break, because the day is messed-up to begin with. Its useful on a day that you're loading/unloading and spend a couple of hours in a loading dock; go somewhere else, load, and finish up your split break.

On a day that you're just driving (11 hrs driving,) you're going to take a 10-hour break, and be done with it.

 

395.1 (g)(1)(ii) Specific berth
(1) 8 hours of sleeper berth
(2) 2 seperate hours of sleeper or off duty