This is *WHY* one must not "Blend" Amateur Radio with "CB"

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Gadfly, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    They also ban 23 ch radios then back tracked on them ...

    The fact is a unmodified radio being used by a ham since there is no certification for 10 meter radios is leagal for HIM TO USE.

    The moment you mod it it is ILLEGAL EVERY bust Iseen on the FCC web site is for a CBer using one of these radios on CB.
     
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  3. jessejamesdallas

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    Exactly! Thats why the FCC has not been active lately in enforcing their own rules...Every time they go to Court the Case gets thrown out because Radios like your Yaesu is just as easily Modifiable to 11 Meter as the Exports that they (FCC) say is easily modifiable...

    Technically, going by the FCC Rules, as of right now, there is not a radio on the market that should be legal, seeing how just about all the radios can be modified for any band a person wants...
     
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  4. jessejamesdallas

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    Really...I haven't seen those busts. Most of the Bust of CB users I have seen on the FCC site, is for guys running excess power on the CB Bands, and causing problems with their neighbors TV sets, and computers...And then only after years of warnings before the FCC even tried to take the CB'er to Court...

    I can only remember reading of one guy who actually got jail time for operating on a Band where he shouldn't have been, and that was a old fart with a Ham license near a Airport that was talking on the FAA Frequency's...Think he got like 3 or 4 Life sentences...
     
  5. WA4GCH

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    They ARE busting for export or ham radios on CB ....

    Dear Mr. W###:

    It has come to the attention of the Federal Communications Commission that at various times in the last several months
    you have operated overpowered transmitting equipment on 11 meters that has interfered with communications in the 10 meter band,
    for which a license is required.

    The Commission's rules require that you operate your CB station with an
    FCC certified CB transmitter. The rules also prohibit the use of external
    radiofrequency power amplifiers (sometimes called linears or linear
    amplifiers). The rules further provide that use of a non-certified CB
    transmitter and/or a power amplifier voids your authority to operate the
    station."

    Operation of radio transmitting equipment without a valid FCC
    authorization is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of
    1934, as amended, and may subject the responsible parties to substantial
    monetary forfeitures, in rem arrest action against the offending radio
    equipment, and criminal sanctions including imprisonment. Because
    unlicensed operation creates a danger of interference to important radio
    communications services and may subject the operator to severe penalties,
    this warning emphasizes the importance of complying strictly with these
    legal requirements.
     
  6. jessejamesdallas

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    Yes...But again the way I read this. The guy was using a Amp with a CB Radio and was bleeding on someones Ham radio...The way this reads, it doesn't say the guy was using a Export type radio, just that he was bleeding over to 10 meters...Which is not that hard to do since the frequency's are so close together...

    I would be willing to bet, the guy with the High Powered CB was on a Base, and he has a close neighbor who is a Ham, and it was bleeding on his radio.

    Same thing as I was talking about in my last post, only instead of a TV set it was a Ham radio...
     
  7. KE5WDP

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    Most CB guys who I know who run bases have exports.....When I read the field reports, I also read it to where they are being turned in for "bleeding" on somebody, whether it be, TVs, computers, or the Ham freqs.

    When the FCC fella goes to inspect, that's when he finds the 10 meter radio.

    But most CB guys I know prefer to have an export because of how they "fix it up" to run with their amps and such.
     
  8. WA4GCH

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    More than likely he is not running a stock CB radio ......more than likely a export and on one of the UPPERS many of these busts the amp only adds insult to injury as far as the problems with this opperator goes.

    As for bleeding on to the 10 meter band I have a problem with that unless his amp was in the THOUSANDS of watts ..... I have a number of Cbers local to me NONE cause a problem and I have every kind of radio from a HTX-10 to a KENWOOD .....

    NOW THIS GUY GETS THE GOLD FOR A DIRTY AMP ....


    " Dear Mr. Han####:

    It has come to the attention of the Federal Communications Commission that at various times in the last several months you have operated overpowered transmitting equipment on 11 meters that has interfered with
    communications in the 10, 12, and 15 meter bands, for which a license is
    required. "

    Maybe he is running a old sparkgap :biggrin_25513:
     
  9. silentpardner

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    I can't believe you haven't turned them in to FCC yet! LOL

    I have never heard of using EXPORT radios with amps...seems like it couldn't work. It is my understanding the Amps used with any RF setup need to be fed at > 10 watts RF. Seems to me it would be a waste of resources to spend $500 on an EXPORT radio pushing 75-300 watts RF output and then connect that to an Amp, blowing it.
     
  10. WA4GCH

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    silentpardner ........

    I run about 80 watts on 160 - 6 meters 150 watts on 2 meters 35 watts on 223mhz and 20 watts on 440 mhz .....

    And STILL get complaints ......

    Best one was when I was in the army in 1968 someone called my Dad and told him that my radio was screwing up his toaster .......

    My dad told him I was 800 miles away and what he could do with that toaster ......

    Yep you can't win ....
     
  11. jessejamesdallas

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    Think maybe you just haven't checked into the Radios they call "Export" much...

    A Export radio can have power ranges anywhere from 30w's to 500w's depending on the Finals...And all of them are Multi-Banded, which I think is the biggest problem the FCC has with them...not so much the output.

    The way people run Amps with these radios is they will have their DK turned down to anywhere from 1w, to maybe 3w's, and then let them swing till the Cows come home, into a Amp...

    The Radios you see that swing around 200 and 400 watts are usually bought by guys that drive for a company that will not allow Amps to be installed in their trucks. (least this was what the Radio Company's were originally targeting the radios for)

    Now, allot of guys will buy these $400-$500 radios and use them as a driver for a larger Amp...Usually to drive something like a 6 pill or larger box.
     
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