Radio-Active Selling "Mobile CW-Transmitters"

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by delta5, Oct 1, 2010.

  1. Gadfly

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    No angst here, but the "CW" thing is still only a clever dodge to allow the illegal sales of amps to CBers. One crystal for ONE frequency at a time and 5 watts. Now that might possibly appeal to a ham who wants to run QRP (low power) CW, but the numbers of hams 1) that run QRP, and 2) the numbers of hams who would buy a single frequency CW Xmitter is so small, it would not support the manufacture of such a unit. No, it is still a CB amp targeted at a much larger clientele: CBers. Even ham equipment, tho not required to be "certificated" (the new FCC buzzword), must meet certain spectral purity standards, and the hams themselves would be the ones who would raise hell IF someone puts a non-filtered, splattering amp or CW transmitter on the air and, thus, it would cause an investigation of interference and possibly sanctions (fines or warnings) to a ham to put such a unit on the air. While I am not familiar with the Texas Star thingies, I would be curious to put one on the spectrum analyzer and see how many spurs and harmonics it would put out in comparision to say..............a properly serviced and tuned Henry or Ameritron. I'd bet it would FAIL the minimum amateur standard, and I don't even know about these things. I know that, in choosing amateur equipment, it would be the LAST thing I would put on the air!:biggrin_2559:

    (O/T) Same with the so-called "export" radios. They are legal to own, and, contrary to some misinformed hams, legal for licensed hams to use in accordance with Part 97 of the FCC rules. They are NOT legal under ANY circumstances on 11 Meters, nor are they legal to be modified to use on BOTH CB and ham (dual usage). That is the source of confusion that exists here. If you are a licensed ham and your "export" radio is modified, prob'ly nothing would be said. If you were caught USING it on 11 Meters (and that applies to anyone) then trouble is ahead. You may NOT do that according to FCC. They are not legal PERIOD for non-licensed persons to use on CB.

    Some of us get mad and go on the attack, generalizing about "hatred" for truckers and CBers in general. They don't READ! I have MANY, MANY times in this and other threads emphasized that my anger at export radios has nothing to do with hatred for CBers; it has to do with the presence of them ON the actual 10 Meter band, 12 Meters, and certain military frequencies for which I have authorization. If you stay where you belong on 11 Meters, I don't care if you BLIND yourself or pop your eyeballs out of your head with a million watts! Just so you stay OUT of these bands and/or don't interfere with me. I've said it a thousand times, but almost instantly some members of this board go ape-sh** and circle their wagons claiming "them old hams 'hate' CBers"! It is not true. You are simply missing the whole point.

    Amateurs have nothing to say about what CBers do on 11 Meters, per se. They have the same authority that a neighbor has to report that his TV is being fubared by interference. They have the same authority another CBer has to report that someone is locking up channel 19 with a carrier.

    These are the facts regarding the situation, and I am putting them down accurately and honestly according to the rules, OK? Most hams don't "follow" truckers around trying to get 'em in trouble for violating Part 95 (CB rules). It is not their job to do so..........BUT!!! If you are INTERFERING with THEIR legally obtained privileges, or operating your Galaxy 99V ON 10 Meters, then they have a traditional and obvious duty to alert FCC to the fact. It's a duty to OTHER hams who may be interfered with, a duty to oneself because he is being denied a privilege that is being usurped by a bandit who has no business being there!~ What happened to truckers during the past years of Riley Hollingsworth's tenure was, truckers WERE operating on the actual 10 Meter band with their illegal and so-called "10 meter 'amateur' radios" by flipping the "band" switch a couple notches UP. This usually landed them on 28.085 AM and they thought this was the new "channel 19" for truckers where they could enjoy some exclusivity and the quiet. This is a CW frequency assigned to hams by international treaty, and they were having NONE of this. So a number of hams all over the US got out and DOCUMENTED, then REPORTED, this illegal activity. These "busts" were reported both on the FCC enforcement site and on qrz.com, & arrl.org, both of which are dedicated to
    amateur radio issues. Deny all one will, but hundreds of trucking companies were sent letters warning them of their drivers' illegal actions. I talked PERSONALLY with Riley about this and SAW these letters published on the 'web. The trucking companies were very cooperative and moved to have these illegal radios taken out of their fleet. As a result, for example, roads like I-85 in North Carolina became more quiet. I even heard a couple of trucks one day talking about being "careful" on them special channels and not to go there because one of their drivers had gotten in trouble over it! It may not fair to YOU, but just like you would if someone was threatening something that is rightfully yours, the hams WILL defend their turf and they WILL aggressively move against those who come onto their bands without license. CB radio and ham radio are TWO distinct activities (and they SHOULD be). Amateur radio has a more strict protocol, its own lingo, its own procedures. Part of that tradition is self-policing ourselves by advising each other of infractions, helping us fix them and reporting those who do not belong. Intruders are NOT welcome to join in without license; that's just a fact. CB, OTH, almost HAS no rules, and the ones it has, people seem to go out of their way to BREAK! It seems to be an unspoken challenge to see just how many one can get away with breaking!:biggrin_2559: The hams, OTH, and for the most part, don't see it that way, but that the rules are there to promote the maximum use of the service by the most people without creating confusion and chaos. When the rules are broken, the hams CHAFE and even disrespect those who actively scoff at rules. Same with the Texas Star "CW transmitter". It isn't a CW device at all; no one can deny the REAL purpose of these things...they are there to break the law. To see if "we" can get away with it, and THAT'S where the hams become disdainful---even scornful-- of the
    people who run splattering amps, try to find loopholes in the laws, & use illegal equipment. Its the difference in Legal and IL-Legal! The difference in right and wrong. Just because you CAN do wrong doesn't mean you HAVE to do wrong. Where there IS scorn from the hams, it is from the illegal amps, the "peak and tune" bull, the splattering, often untelligible audio from all that snippin' and clippin' plus all the intrusions onto the ham bands.....THAT'S why hams thumb their noses, NOT at legal CBers!:biggrin_2559:

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  3. TriAxleTrucker16

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    Maybe some research is in order to see if any HAMs use the Texas Star amps. You never know. Gadfly, on the point of non-licensed users on 10/12 meters, I agree with you. Those are the ones who make the rest of us look bad. I can't remember where, but just recently I read an article by a HAM, about a the owner of the truck company who outfitted his trucks with Connex 4300HP radios. It wasn't long before he got a warning from the FCC about his drivers, and himself, being caught on 28.085. When he was interviewed by the Ham guy, his response was "I didn't know I couldn't do that." Just know where you're talking. Don't give them a reason to bother you, and they wont.
     
  4. WA4GCH

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    It is not illegal for a ham to use one of the amps PROVIDED he can show it is legal as far is how clean it is ......

    I can put just about any radio on the air as long as it is LEGAL I can't put modulated oscillators or spark gaps or any BANNED mode but as for AM/FM/SSB it only has to be clean ......

    HOWEVER you cannot put a HAM or CB radio on a part 90 service but you can put a PART 90 radio on the ham bands .....
     
  5. TriAxleTrucker16

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    It is not illegal for a ham to use one of the amps PROVIDED he can show it is legal as far is how clean it is ......

    I know, I meant to see if any of them actually USE the texas star amps as CW transmitters.
     
  6. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    0000.00000 Hams :biggrin_25513:
     
  7. TriAxleTrucker16

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    That's specific, I figured as much.
     
  8. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    Why would you bother when 99% of HAM radios have CW built in ?
     
  9. TriAxleTrucker16

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    I don't know anything about ham radios, so I wasn't sure if you needed some external source for CW...
     
  10. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    most ham radios have cw built in
     

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  11. TriAxleTrucker16

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    Nice looking unit there, WA
     
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