breaking the 70 hour rule

A big hello from Pittsburgh my fellow traveler.

 

This is a load of hooie.

You may be fired for insubordination should you refuse to run over your hours.

After being fired you will have to defend yourself repeatedly to clear your record.

People who know jack about trucking will decide your fate.

I was.

 

Regardless, you are being treated as a consumable commodity and you're not. He can make you work past 70 but you cannot drive. You must be below 70 or have a reset before you can drive again. If he tries to force you to leave the yard ( in CMV ) tell him you need to call safety and have this approved...... watch him squirm.

Time to find a new job bud.... tiger don't usually change his stripes so if he's checked now , he'll try it again.

 

Guess you should have had this printed:

With winter coming, anyone want the one that shows you your rights to refuse to run in bad weather? I can post that one also.

 

"After being fired you will have to defend yourself repeatedly to clear your record."
Facts were twisted, irrelevant facts/issues were brought into play, assumptions were made, and a less than best case time line was used.

My argument was "As a driver I am the last in the chain to determine if I can safely and legally deliver a load no matter what anyone else determines."

I am still fired for insubordination. What is my recourse?

I don't want my job back, I have no desire to work for someone who expects me to break the law and places their own profit above my safety.

There are lots of empty toothless laws on the books, useless and completely unenforceable. Laws written for political gain....

 

They say you were fired for insubordination. For not following what rule? See, what I said in my orginal post was that cannot directly fire you for refusing to run over hours. They will however, try to find something else to fire you on or force you to quit.

Document everything. get them to send a message over the QC telling you run illegal(bet you thye won't).

 

Yes they did try to force me to quit.

They would not say "your fired".

I was instructed to return my truck to the yard and turn in all my issued property.

I realized that this would be interpreted as quitting, so I parked the truck in the yard (so I would not be charged with grand theft) and reported for my next scheduled on duty.

They claim I went home without permission. They claim I could have completed the dispatch without going over HOS limits but could not provide a realistic time line to back that claim.

Stupid games..... Useless law has no teeth. You cannot prohibit something without a penalty for violating.

 

Do not do it! Do not drive past your 70. As others have stated, send it back on the qualcom. Then ask to speak to his supervisor and advise him of the situation.
Do everything on the qualcom.

 

Just before I started at school there was an incident in Jacksonville, FL. A driver who had been driving for 36 HOURS STRAIGHT fell asleep and plowed into the back of a mini-van carrying seven kids from a single family. The mini-van burst into flames and all seven children were killed, ranging from a few months to age 16. Not only that, when the grandfather found out he had a heart attack and died several days later.

Now I don't give a crap about the jail time the guy got except to insure he got it. If that had been me, I don't know if I could live knowing what I did. That pretty much made up my mind about violating HOS no matter WHAT anyone says. Screw them, it's my life, my license, and my conscience. They're sitting in a nice air conditioned room, they're going home to see their family tonight, and they're going to do it again tomorrow. You are the one in the driver seat and it is your responsibility.

Just sayin...

 

first thing you do, is ask him to send that to you over the qualcomm. If your company dont run with them, yeah...i'd ask him to verify that he'll pay the ticket if you get pulled over. Which, of course, he'll say 'no', so then you tell him that you aren't doing it. Tell him you're out of hours, and your next phone call will be to safety.

if you run with a qualcomm, he probably WON'T send that message.