Fuel Optimizer

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by gentleroger, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Is there any trick to getting the fuel optimizer to give a sane fuel solution? I've been getting some asinine results that end up burning unnecessary time and making days feel harder.

    I'd like to be able to make as few stops as possible. Can I manipulate the computer into giving me stops when I want them?
     
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  3. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I wouldn't mess with the computer. If the company finds out you're history. I don't really understand what you're trying to do exactly. But if you're trying to get better fuel milage then the best item you can use is your foot. When pulling that grade back off just enough to where you do not lose any power and you'll save there.

    If you're shifting through the gears by running up agains't the governor then back it down a couple hundred RPM. It's not good for the engine to run agains't the peg anyway. Try to get in the highest gear as quick as possible. Progressive shifting may help.

    The biggest wasted use of fuel is letting the truck idle when you're not there or sleeping. If that's the case, look for other means to keep warm and cool. In the winter it's easy to keep warm, but in the summer it's a lot harder to keep cool. Search out on this board and you can find how others have done it. I hope this has helped.
     
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  4. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    everytime the economy tanks, "snake oil's and fuel saving gizmo's" come out.

    if these devices actually worked, the companies would have them installed. the computer's would be tweaked. i personally will NEVER believe a trucker that says he's getting better mileage by using these devices or additives or tweaks. i would NEVER believe the average 4 wheeler that makes the same claims.

    like said by gashauler, your best fuel "optimizer" is your foot, your driving habits, your idle times, tire inflation, proper viscosity motor oils or synthetics, etc,etc (i expanded on what he mentioned).

    if it's YOUR truck, as in YOU OWN IT, then have at it.......but expect nothing but a lighter wallet or bigger credit card bill next month.

    if you are a company driver, talk with the shop. maybe the mechanics there can download the profile of your truck and check all the parameters of its operation and make adjustments.
     
  5. jollygreendoc

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    If I am correct, I believe they are asking about a fuel optimization routing program, that provides the best places to stop for fuel along a given route. The answer will depend on what program they are using. Is the company providing the fuel routing for you? Or are you using a website/program on your own? If you are using your own, you just have to configure the software to your desires. Such as, your trucks MPG, tank capacity, how low you want to go (50%, 75%, 90%) before fueling. And you can even choose the places you wish to stop. (Comdata fuel stops, or a particular chain).

    Hope this helps you with your question.
     
  6. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    To clarify I'm not talking about mpg but rather fueling points. When I get a load I have to reply to a fuel macro to get directions. The computer at the company figures out where the cheapest place for the company to fuel. You can fuel elsewhere but you need to be 80% compliant to get the bonus. The problem is these fuel points are often inconvient and sometimes downright asinine. For example pulling a load out of Tulsa heading for central Wisconsin, starting one mile from a Pilot, 3/4 of a tank, :30 of drive time left, temp below 32 with one hell of a wind. The best use of my time is to overnight at the Pilot, drive 10.5 hours to the Rockford area where I'd fuel and overnight, finishing the other 4 hours the next day. The computer tells me to fuel up in Beloit, 700 miles away. There's no way to make that in one day's drive with a truck governed at 60.5. It would have left me overnighting in sub zero temp with a storm warning with less that 1/4 tank - not a smart position. Or the fuel optimizer tells you to drive 20 miles out of route to take on 51 gallons of fuel.

    What I'm looking for is a way to respond to the macro so that more often than not I can get a sane fueling assignment and preferably one that meshs with my day (ie fuel at lunchtime)
     
  7. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    well sorry about that, i thought you were trying chemicals, gizmo's' etc,etc.....which in a way, you are using a "gizmo".....

    you get a fuel bonus...?????

    frankly i drove and stopped where i wanted to, as long as i "shopped" for the lowest prices and went to self serve. so if (say) i was at an exit and there were 4 truck stops...?? i just "shop" the low price at the time.

    if there was only one truck stop...?? oh well, but that i made sure of did not happen all too often.

    can't you just route yourself to where you need to go and maybe along the way find your fuel, instead of the way you're doing it now...??? you would still be hitting the macro, but just doing it differently. is your company THAT anal.....????
     
  8. jollygreendoc

    jollygreendoc Bobtail Member

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    I had worked for two company's that used opti-fuel routing. The first company had a no tolerance approach. If the Q/C said fill, you filled the tanks. If it said 51 gallons, it was suppose to be enough to get you to the next fuel stop, and cheaper prices. It's all about the bottom line for companies, and fuel is a HUGE bottom line.

    Now, the second company I worked for also had opti-fueling, BUT you were also authorized to fuel at your discretion at any of their authorized stops. You were expected to use the best stops at all times, but they did take into account " variables " that occur. As long as this was not abused, it was authorized.

    So.... you need to check with your company on what their policy is with fueling.

    BTW.... there is usually a macro you can send in, to request a new fuel plan, with remarks you have to fill in on why you want a new plan.

    Good Luck!
     
  9. o.m.d.

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    the best thing to keep any engine running at optimum MPG is routine maintenance. clean oil is one of the best ways. as oil gets old it gets grimey and sludgey, and when your crank spins its gotta spin threw all the gunk in the oil pan. it also cant keep the engine cool so you run your engine hotter which is not good for it. oil changes, spark plugs, air cleaners, get your injectors inspected and cleaned if they need it. simple stuff really. but neglecting these things and thinking adding in autozones 4.99 mpg booster is gonna do anything is stupid.
     
  10. o.m.d.

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    then again if you're a company driver then i wouldnt worry about it
     
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