CSA 2010: The data

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  1. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    It wouldn't count because the only thing that counts toward your csa profile is from inspection reports not tickets. At least that's what we've been told.
     
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  3. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    That's correct. But alot of DOT officers are pulling level 3 inspections when a moving violation occurs and put the violation on the inspection report.

    Like a seat belt violations a secondary offense in some states that they can't pull you over for. Well, you are going to be pulled over for a level 3 inspection and the seat belt ticket will follow.

    Sneaky little ########. :)
     
  4. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    That's why I asked if their was an inspection done or not. If their was and it was put on the inspection then it will affect his csa profile. If no inspection then it won't.
     
  5. Rug_Trucker

    Rug_Trucker Road Train Member

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    Who told you that? You going to convince me a speeding ticket doesn't count? A chargeable accident counts. Probably a non chargeable counts too.

    Swift isn't talking to us about squat. Nobody seems to understand what is really going on. I got a JJKeller book on it. It makes my head hurt to read it.
     
  6. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    That JJ Keller book will tell you that if you read it. Making your head hurt? That's their whole goal.
     
  7. JimDriv3r

    JimDriv3r Road Train Member

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    If there's a condition above "chronic migraine", then I'm already there after reading a few pages.
     
  8. stevenater

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    I got an inspection, I wasnt in violation for anything safetey related, just cited for failure to stop. Funny thing is, I had put my two weeks in a few days ago, hopefully it doesn't stop me from getting the new job.
     
  9. stevenater

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    To clearify, I got pulled over and cited for failure to stop at safety inspection check point. Thanks for yalls input.
     
  10. ladywrongway03

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    I hit a deer,pulled off to side of road,called sheriffs dept filed report.Was driving to truckstop,got pulled over by decauter local.Explained I hit a deer but filed report.He did a dot inspection.So I now have headlight,hazard light and 67 in a 65 violations on csa 2010
     
  11. DedHedEd

    DedHedEd Light Load Member

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    I emailed the CSA people today, and got this for a reply: :biggrin_25524:

    Flag this messageYour CSA Feedback Request

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 6:10 PM

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    "ed"



    Ed,
    Thank you for taking the time to submit your question on CSA, drivers, the new Driver Safety Measurement System (DSMS) data and the Pre-Employment Screening Program (PSP). The DSMS is a component of the overall SMS. At present the DSMS is simply a tool that enables law enforcement personnel to assess individual drivers in the Behavior Analysis and Safety Improvement Categories (BASICs) using 36 months of roadside performance data, across employers. At this time, FMCSA will NOT use this system to assign formal safety ratings or Safety Fitness Determinations (SFDs) to individual drivers. This means FMCSA will not be removing any drivers from their job, only the State can do that as they do now. DSMS does not impact the CDL. Neither drivers nor employing motor carriers will have access to the DSMS. However, both drivers and employing motor carriers will have access to driver data through the Driver Pre-Employment Screening Program (PSP). PSP differs from the DSMS in that it does not compare or assess driver inspection/crash performance. Instead, it provides a list of crash and inspection activity associated with the driver over the previous 3 years of inspections and 5 years of crashes. FMCSA does not address drivers the same way it addresses carriers today, nor will it under CSA. While carriers are prioritized for intervention based on the SMS, drivers are only investigated during a carrier investigation. Therefore, no Intervention Thresholds are in place for drivers.
    In the Operational Model Test (Op-Model Test), Safety Investigators (SIs) look at driver history when investigating a carrier; specifically, they are looking for egregious violations of FMCSA’s safety regulations by drivers. These violations are sometimes referred to as Red Flag Violations, which are driver violations that are, by design, always investigated as part of a carrier investigation. The Safety Investigator (SI) looks to see if the violation has been corrected. At present, there are 12 such violations, though this list may be updated periodically. These are outlined in the table below, along with the Behavior Analysis and Safety Improvement Category (BASIC) to which they correspond.
    BASIC
    Part
    Violation Description
    Driver Fitness​
    383.21​
    Operating a CMV with more than one driver's license
    Driver Fitness​
    383.23(a)(2)​
    Operating a CMV without a valid CDL
    Driver Fitness​
    383.51(a)​
    Driving a CMV (CDL) while disqualified
    Driver Fitness​
    383.91(a)​
    Operating a CMV with improper CDL group
    Driver Fitness​
    391.11​
    Unqualified driver
    Driver Fitness​
    391.11(b)(5)​
    Driver lacking valid license for type vehicle being operated
    Driver Fitness​
    391.11(b)(7)​
    Driver disqualified from operating CMV
    Driver Fitness​
    391.15(a)​
    Driving a CMV while disqualified
    Controlled Substances/Alcohol​
    392.4(a)​
    Driver uses or is in possession of drugs
    Controlled Substances/Alcohol​
    392.5(a)​
    Possession/use/under influence alcohol-4hrs prior to duty
    Fatigued Driving (HOS)​
    395.13(d)​
    Driving after being declared out-of-service
    Vehicle Maintenance​
    396.9(c)(2)​
    Operating an Out-Of-Service (OOS) vehicle
    Any driver violations identified and addressed during carrier investigations that are not corrected may result in a driver Notice of Violation (NOV) or Notice of Claim (NOC). These are the only driver interventions at this time. Carriers and the public are not informed about driver interventions. Drivers will be notified by mail and may be contacted by a FMCSA investigator.
    PSP is a new FMCSA program mandated by Congress that is designed to assist the motor carrier industry in assessing individual operators' crash and serious safety violation history as a pre-employment condition. The program is voluntary and is not part of CSA. Motor carriers may request, through NIC Technologies, driver information for the purpose of pre-employment screening. The driver must provide written consent. Individual drivers may request their own driver information record at any time. The information will be retrieved from the Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS). MCMIS electronic profiles will contain five years of crash data and three years of inspection data, however, MCMIS will not include conviction data. There will be a fee for this service. People can enroll now at http://www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/Pages/Enroll.aspx. People who have additional questions about PSP can go to the PSP website and review the PSP FAQs (http://www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/Pages/FAQ.aspx), and/or visit the PSP 'Contact Us' page (http://www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/Pages/ContactUs.aspx).

    To know how many severity points a speeding violation is worth simply look at the violation code (392.2s, 392.2-SLLS1 ... etc.)

    The SMS Methodology is located here: http://ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/HelpFiles/SMSMethodology.pdf. Appendix A lists all the violations, which BASIC they apply to, and their severity points.



    I recommend you keep up with the latest information on CSA as it becomes available by signing up for the email subscription service or RSS feed. You can do this on the CSA website http://csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/Stay_Connected.aspx. I hope this answers your question, feel free to contact me if you have additional questions.
    Jonathan Mozenter
    CSA Team


    The message above was in response to the following feedback submitted 12/22/2010 12:00:00 AM
    Name - ed
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