More good information! This kind of gets at what I'm asking. I can account for my time (and money) no problem. I'm just trying to get ideas of what to pull together and how far back to go.
I expect I could ask a recruiter, but from what I've read here, the answers would be suspect in any case. I'm hoping to get some real information from someone in the know, who may have seen a similar situation.
Thanks.
How should I explain a long retirement?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BarnDog, Dec 14, 2010.
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Funny, lots of kids want to be firemen. I wanted to be a trucker. So, I was a firefighter for 21 years, retired at 43, took a year and a half off, decided it was time to do something again, and last year got a job driving an athletics bus. Now, finally, I'm looking into doing what I always wanted to do. I didn't think of the lapse in employment being a problem when applying for the job I have, or for a trucking job after I finish school, provided there's a sound reason for it.
Being financially able to do whatever you want at a young enough age to actually do it is friggin nice, and it's the result of hard work and good decisions. I won't apologize for that; however, based on what the responses have been, I would expect some employers will simply assume that I might not "need" the job, and therefore might be more apt to just bail if it's not for me, but isn't that what's going on in the trucking industry already?
From what I've read here, plenty of new drivers find out this lifestyle is drastically different and much more stressful than they imagined, and either work until their obligation is fulfilled, or just leave. Some here even call some companies "rookie factories," or something to that effect. So, I hope that your 10-year jobless span won't exclude you from opportunities.Last edited: Dec 15, 2010
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I see nothing wrong with saying you're coming out of retirement. Trying to paint a Monet with fingerpaints will get you nowhere in the art world. Similarly, making claims of "self employment" when you were actually playing golf won't cut the mustard either. Lots of folks come out of retirement to drive. You'll just have to make it clear you're not out here to play graba** or sightsee. You're out here to work.
I find that age comment a little annoying. There are people sucessfully entering this field in their 60's.
Don't sweat it. Simply tell the truth. If they want backup testimony, be prepared to have friends or family draft up a letter supporting your position. You should be fine.Big Don Thanks this. -
Seen a similar situation. However, it was a bit different.
A Journeyman Operation Engineer (Equipment Operator) was retired for 7 years as a Journeyman Cement Mason. (became an Apprentice EO after his 7 year retirement) Not because he "had to" but because he was simply tired of being retired LOL.
Not quite related to trucking, but he DID get his CDL just prior to applying to his apprenticeship (he used to have a CDL but it was long expired). 7 years later he's a Journeyman.
Anyways. When he first applied, when he got an interview with the Local, they were skeptical as to why he had a massive gap in his resume. (They clearly saw he was a Cement Mason for 26yrs, started an Apprenticeship at age 16) and then he explained he was retired for 7 years. They grilled him as to why (Trades don't always get along in the Industry, someone is always doing a "tougher job" [insert eyes rolling]) he wanted to suddenly start working again after 7 years, and then his inner Foreman kicked in.
Mans investments-overtime, brought in $22,000 annually, on top of his Union Pension. For him, it he loved the Industry. It was that simple. He explained how much he wants to rejoin the Industry. Can't become a Cement Mason anymore because since he retired through the Operative Plasterers' and Cement Masons' International Association (OPCMIA) (say that 10 times fast) which was the Cement Mason Union he was in. He couldn't go back in. So he had to pick a new craft to continue working in the industry.
The way he came off, actually enlightened the committee who was interviewing him.
I understand the Construction Industry is different compared to the Transportation Industry, however, it's still valid. In that if you present your case, and sell yourself properly, you can get the job.
My friend is looking to retire from ANOTHER union in 13 years. He already pulls in $22,000+his retirement pension. Now making salary as a Journeyman, soon to be Construction Foreman through the IUOE. He'll be in charge of a Company's Trucks, and Heavy Equipment. Man is set for life because of his choices.
All because he explained the Industry was a profession he wished to master, and rejoin. His insight into things, are amazing. (You'd be amazed what you can learn from an "old guy")
I posted all this, because I want you to know, you're not the only guy who's ever been in your shoes. 7 years is a bit earlier than 10, but 3 additional years shouldn't be that different.
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After the steel mill I worked at for the last 30 years closed, I took a couple of year off, then got my CDL and I now deliver to food wharehouses for the last 5 years. When the H/R guy asked me about the 2 year gap in my employment, I told him the truth, I spent some quality time with my grandkids, played in the stockmarket and went fishing whenever I wanted. I got the job.
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Thanks for all the comments. I may not know exactly what they're going to ask for until I get further along, and I'm ready to make some calls and apply for some jobs...after I have my CDL in hand! But this gives me some ideas as to how to present my situation in the best light.
Naw, I haven't been goofing, playing golf or laying on the beach...I just haven't had a regular paycheck. Aside from dealing with financial turmoil (2001 tech market meltdown, 9/11 fallout, and finally the Great Recession - and, yeah, it takes a lot of work to avoid losing your life savings!), I've spent a lot of time rehabilitating a piece of rural property (clearing old fire damage, cutting brush, mowing pastures, building roads, spraying weeds and a bunch more) and taking classes at my community college (welding, machining, electronics). So I stay plenty busy.
I think there are some opportunities; it's a matter of trying to figure out which way to jump; at least that's what my life has been about.
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Ah, well..."search" is your friend...once you know what to ask!
There have been quite a few threads that discuss this. The FMCSA legal requirement for me is to provide three years of employment history. If I had driven a CMV within the last ten years, I'd have to go back that far.
The gist of it, as I understand, is that this process is intended to raise any red flags that might indicate that a potential driver has had previous employment issues that could effect their legal eligibility to drive a truck. It's up to the employer to look at the prospective employee's history and dig up any related problems. They're looking for bad apples.
So, the legal requirement for me will to be to cover three years back from April 2011, when I'll have my CDL (I hope) and start to send out applications.
A chunk of that will be covered by my time in school, CDL and an academic year of Electronics. There'll be a couple of gaps in there, and I may have to get friends and neighbors to write some notarized letters stating that I've been at home tending to the ranch. I may have to provide tax records to verify my source of income. I saw one posting from a person who said they did employee screening, and there's a process to get people through it.
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hey barn dog let me no how you make out,i have similar
situation,thanks
i stopped working 5 years ago at 40 and before that was selfemployed for over 10 years.when you tell people you
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Barndog what I was trying to say was normal everyday people cannot afford to retire at 43. I commend you for being able to. Now, here's the deal. You have to account for your time for the last 10 years. With all the applicants knocking on doors for jobs, why should an employer attempt to process you in and verify your time when it's much easier to hire Joe Schmoe with verifible references? You may find work in this industry, but just be prepared for doors slamming in your face.
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