New drivers arrogance

they usually do put up... with an empty wallet for paying the fines from dot or the tow truck bill when the know it alls end up in the ditch

have a little kooth and relax and listen you will learn alot i know i did and i still do... i love talking to the drivers with lots of exp... always learn something new and if you listen and loose the attitude they will share alot

 

That's with any industry like you said you have know it all's everywhere. It's just a darn shame the know it all newbies of trucking learn the hard way and other peoples lives are at stake, innocent motorists....

 

It's ignorance not arrogance that causes this more than anything.

 

Yeap. Seen lots of know-it-alls in the ditch, to care much about what they call us.

 

It's kind of a normal trend that alot have to go through. They can't wait to be an experienced driver. A driver will learn and then they get comfortable and over confident in the 0-2 yr range. They think they know it all and will even lie about their experience level to support their cause of what they know. They will get mad easy and don't know how to deal with customers the right way, etc.

The truth is, it takes about two years to settle in about five years to learn all the ins and outs and become a seasoned driver. All I can say is enjoy the ride. You'll be there before you know it if you don't wreck. Then when you are older you'll wish you were younger.
That's one reason you see alot of the better companies requiring two years experience. They want the drivers past that stage.

 

Interesting question, Buckeye.

I'm not sure if they actually "believe" they know everything as much as it is that's what they want others to believe. It's an act, ...... for some. If they really believe that they're a cut above the rest, actions speak louder than words. What does their performance reveal?

When I attended Big truck truck drivin' school, --- 'bout 20+ years ago, there were classroom commandos, mostly seeking attention. But when we closed the books and hit the yard, most of the classroom commandos were outperformed by those who talked the least. Many of the other students would get together to help each other overcome any problems they were experiencing, but the classroom commandos kept to themselves. Who knows what advice they shared?
IMO, they needed an attitude adjustment and a dose of maturity.
None of the commandos graduated near the top of the class.

Name callin'?
Consider the source.
If the drivin' gloves don't fit, --- don't wear 'em.
Let me put it this way; if you were walkin' in a crowd and someone behind y'all yelled, HeY, #*#&&%!!, would you turn around?
Or know that they're not yellin' at you, 'cause you're not a #*#&&% ?
Name callin' is just a diversion.

As for the seasoned Big truck truck drivers lumpin' all newBees together based on a few "arrogant punks" with bad attitudes, fret not, --- for we are capable of distinguishing who's who. An open mind and a well developed sense of humor are attributes in the Big truck truckin' industry.

I hear ya driver.
You mean like, "be sure to wipe the dipstick off before stickin' it back in the hole or dirt will get in the oil"?
I ask for more details and pretend I didn't know.
Makes their day.

Anyone fooled isn't worth the effort it takes to fool 'em.
I say if they aren't gonna shut up, by golly, ...... they better be able to
back it up.
If they can, it ain't brag,
it's fact.
Then, ..... it's a personality thang.

 

i actually had something happen last friday...a guy in my school, although he has a current class B, wants to upgrade to an A....it's been YEARS since he had to be DMV tested, in fact, he was grand-fathered in to the CDL back in 1992....that's how long he has been driving.....however, he MUST do ALL the skills tests for the class A...

ok, so now he asked me to test him on the air brake test...(last friday), which i took him up on his offer.....

we get into the truck, now mind you, the state WANTS the truck to be at FULL air pressure BEFORE the test starts...

so, he starts up the truck, the air pressure was below 110 psi....it NEEDS to be 120-125 psi as per MY state rules....

so he "charges up the air pressure, and when it is done, he skips the FIRST test and decides to go onto step number 2....

i failed him on the spot.....he said the truck air was full, which i had agreed.....but once full, you must push in both valves and do the governor cut-in/cut out test....which he did not.....

he wanted to do the air leakage test.....which is WRONG....

he felt that i wasn't being fair to him......i told him, the DMV guy would have given om AN INSTANT FAILURE........

he put his tail between his legs and got out of the truck.....
i didn't take what he said as an insult...hardly


i walked away with a smile on my face.....

no student will ever tell me he was doing something properly, how can they...when i catch them screw up...????

 

I know what you mean and as a newbie agree. However, there is a lot of arrogance on both sides of this coin. Many experienced drivers think that just because their experienced that anyone new can't possibly know anything. As a newbie who grew up in a trucking family, I know a great deal. I don't know everything, but I was prepared for this career and well advised. As a matter of fact, I'm still very advised. I appreciate any advice and guidance from an experienced driver. However, I don't appreciate arrogance and disrespect which I've encountered quite a bit since I started. It seems that every truck stop has somebody who feels they must make some ###### comment about new drivers. These drivers aren't doing anyone any favors by being so negative.

 

they forget where they started from