Becoming an O/O with bad past

I hate to say it but with a failed drug test you are going to be hard pressed to get your own athourity and then getting insurance which is what activates your athourity will be almost impossable. Now as far as the cost of start up. that depends on you. but you need enough money to operate for 90 days with no income figure around 90 or 100 grand then the cost of the truck and trailer so your looking at around 200 grand to get started unless you have spotless credit and a good back ground and past track record before you can get in with a good broker. most brokers are going to give you the worst loads they have for a while till they get to know that your a good risk then they will start to give you some better freight. Now if you can get some of your own contracts then its up to you but the start up cost of a new company are very high and will keep most people out of the buisness unless you have some real good backing or luck into the good contract. Most all shippers will pay every 30 to 90 days depending on there accounting dept set up. so if you go with the brokers that pay in 24 hours you will have income but you are getting less of the pot so its up to you as how you will get started. But most truck dealers want at least 20% down and a contract to proove that you can pay for the equipment before they will finance equipment.

 

Give me some more detail surrounding the failed drug test. Was it a company test? How many failed tests? What drug(s) were detected? Were you reported to any particular agency other than your company? etc.

Not being nosey, but I can help you make a proper determination based on the specifics. Moreover, your situation is usually not as serious as you might think.

 

A failed drug test not serious for a driver?????? He had 10 years exp and lost his job. He said no one will hire him. Is it just me or is there a problem with your reply?

 

Yes, its just you! There is no problem with my reply. In matter of fact, my response actually considered an attempt to uncover some plausible resolution, as opposed to your resounding degradation of the matter.


Perhaps you need to re-read his initial question and take at least a feeble stab at resolving the problem he’s presenting, instead of compounding it with the same self defeating innocuous mentality obviously already burdening the questioner. Of course if you see no resolution on the horizon, then you might consider abstinence as your most helpful response in this instant case (Not that I haven’t read some of your previous, more lucid, helpful responses on other subject matter for which you’ve obviously have had some considered experience).


He is not looking for another "job". His query was regarding becoming an 0/0 with a bad past, not getting a job from some company already armed with preventative regulations and policies. By way of example, only superficially at this point without the additional input I requested hererinabove, certainly there are jobs to be won from internet resources (notwithstanding the necessary equipment needed for that type of endeavor) devoid of the typical Nazi rubber hose interrogation tactics employed by many driver hiring companies. Moreover, the type of "drug", which was the catalyst for his initial discharge, would indeed be a paramount premiss in any logical cognitive thought process which would even remotely result in a syllogistic solution.


Finally, I would like to think at least that, 10 years of unblemished work experience (presumably) versus one failed drug test, (alcohol or cannabis for example) might not be career ending. Even the various criminal State Statutes, as well as the United States Codes, don’t end a person, so to speak, for felonious motor carrier behavior, except in some rare circumstances, but instead provide a penalty which must be paid before getting that "second chance". In any event, his behavior may have been so egregious as to be unforgivably unrecoverable... but then again, it might not have been.


Thus, I remain resolute in my initial question, which continues to be relevant to his initial question. Moreover, any forthcoming advice from this retired police officer with a Juris Doctorate in Law, will completely depend upon detailed circumstances and not mere rhetorical conjecture writing him off without at least some serious consideration.

 

are you a lawyer - or do you just play one on forums?

with effort, this guy can probably find some sort of driving job - but with companies who are involved in the "DAC" world, he's done - stick a forchet in him.

 

I don't need to re-read it. The reason he is not looking for another job is he said no one will hire him. Reason, insurance. Now if he gets a truck he is going to need what? Insurance. He still has the failed drug test, which by my deciefering means that somehow drugs got into his system. I got a pretty good idea that by him owning a truck this problem isn't going to go away. Now he has a truck payment with no insurance and who is going to want to put freight in that box and have something happen to it without insurance?

 

I am an Attorney in Fact here in South Florida (not a practicing attorney, so no, I’m not looking for clients); a retired police detective; I have my own authority; and I drive my own rig(s).

My original point, before I was derailed onto a tandem, was that I wanted to know the details of his particular incident in order to more properly advise him. It might well be that his situation is unrecoverable, but I won't know that till I hear the details.

All in all, my position is that most of us make mistakes from time to time, his didn't appear to have a victim attached to it, thus, perhaps he is not as barricaded in his dilemma as he might have been led to believe.

 

It academic at this point. Guess we'll have to let him reply to my original query, if he's a mind to, otherwise it’s a moot point.