Reefer fuel in a P/U ????

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  1. Rockin&Rollin

    Rockin&Rollin Heavy Load Member

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    So long as the truck with a farm plate never uses a public road it’s cool to run off road fuel. The same for any type of plate is true. A vehicle with a farm plate is not allowed to use off road fuel on any public road anywhere in the USA though.
     
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    I remember a contractor who had diesel pickups and cars,when they started dying off-road fuel, he sold every last one of those and replaced them with gasoline vehicles. You'd better believe he didn't want to get checked. My friend the crop farmer, who also hauls grain, sometimes buys a tank full of taxed fuel to use in his semis.

    You keep track of miles operated in each state and gallons of fuel bought in each state. Indiana stands out because you can buy fuel with less tax on it if you have the apportioned fuel use stickers on your truck, tax exempt sale, many places there will ask for the DOT number before allowing fuel to be pumped, if you don't have that number, fuel will be sold as non tax exempt, and you will pay quite a bit more, this fuel is sometimes called car diesel. Indiana charges the same for road use tax, but since buying fuel there means you pay less taxes, you end up with a higher net cost on the fuel after taxes than you would across the border in OH or IL.

    I used to buy farm fuel in town at times, we paid the same in IA some places and other places less, but you could get a tax refund for farm use on some of the federal tax all fuel was assessed. We could also get a refund from state for those taxes if they were paid on fuel used off road. Gasoline for farm use had all taxes applied and the refund for ag use there was substantial.

    BTW, some truck stops sell off road fuel that is dyed, it varies by demand and area but I have seen it every state west of the Delaware River, it may well be everywhere in this country. I don't know about up north, those drivers would be the ones to ask about that as well as what fuel is available there and the use of dye.

    Ag fuel is now ULSD in most cases as well, it doesn't pay to refine smaller quantities of LSD, and using ULSD causes less soot and smoke according to any authority you ask. The premium fuels went to ULSD first. Low sulfur fuel is getting harder to find and regular fuel that was available before low sulfur fuel I haven't seen recently.

    I am now in a truck with the DPF, so I need to use the ULSD to be compliant with the law.
     
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    If I’m paying road tax on every gallon of fuel and E-85 I don’t mind seeing the government also collecting from those running biodiesel as well. The real kicker for the cheaters is that IRS thingy to go with whatever DOT fine they may get = ouch!
     
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    Personally I could care less. They steal enough money from us already. if you can be creative and make your vehicle run on dog crap or anything else on not have to buy fuel, more power to ya I say go for it. Screw the IRS. www.fairtax.org
     
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    Just curious here. How do they dip the tanks on the pickups? Don't nearly all have screens in the filler necks to prevent siphoning? (and consequently dipping?)
     
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    It is legal in most states to run Red Dyed fuel if you are a rancher-farmer and are within 150 miles of your home doing ranching-farming business. You better not be pulling a boat or furniture in a trailer. High Sulphur fuel has been phased out completely.
     
  10. Passin Thru

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    My F 250 has no screens.
     
  11. Rockin&Rollin

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    No matter who you are road tax must be paid by every vehicle that uses a public road no matter what state. “Federal excise tax” is only exempt for off road use by farmers or anybody else. If a farmer drives his tractor on a road it doesn't apply, if its a pickup/car it must have taxed fuel only as per federal law.
     
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