Riddle me this...

Discussion in 'Swift' started by BigShrek72, Mar 9, 2011.

  1. dodgeram440rt

    dodgeram440rt Heavy Load Member

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    To support what Edward was saying up there, I recently picked up a load that caused me some problems, but could have been avoided if the csr had been better informed.

    I was loading in Cicero, IL, a place I've loaded at a couple times before with no problem other than it takes 5 hrs to load a trailer full of empty paint cans. :biggrin_25510: The process had always been the same: pull up in front of the docks, unhook the trailer, go inside to the shipping window, then pull around to the other side of the building, park at an angle and wait til the switcher pulls your trailer around to you. There was never any appointment time required.

    This time I get there at 11:30 am and the guy at the window tells me my appointment isn't until 3 pm and I need to come back no sooner or no later than 2:30. What?!:biggrin_2554: I guess they changed their policy a couple months ago. I messaged my dm and he messaged the csr who said that she had no idea that it required an appointment time.

    Like Edward said above, how are these loads created? Do the csr's create the loads? If so, do they communicate with the shippers and consignees in getting the essential information? And, if so, wouldn't that information include such important info as appointment times?
     
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  3. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Of course it SHOULD dodgeram. But this IS trucking and if it can get screwed up, it probably will. I'd also like to see a response to the above questions about how the loads are created, just for information.

    We all know that we don't live in a perfect world, and trucking sure isn't an exact science. . .
     
  4. Rug_Trucker

    Rug_Trucker Road Train Member

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    That place in Cicero is a joke!

    I was talking with another driver picking up in Louisiana today at a Fruit of the Loom. He got there 2hrs after another driver took of with his load!

    Then his DM didn't believe him! They had him get the info on which truck got the load!


    Why is it we can't find empty trailers? There is a record of where they are isn't there?
     
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  5. BigShrek72

    BigShrek72 Light Load Member

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    Yeah I have that seldom wrong thing too ;)

    I would love nothing more than to answer your question completely, but I cannot.

    I can only tell you how it works from the view of a very hot air-freight load, one of the few times I will be involved in an order from the very beginning.

    1. Customer calls, asks if we can take a load from, for example, LAX to JFK.
    2. I ask when the load picks up, date and time (usually that night).
    3. I call the planner for LA, ask if we have a team.
    4. Assuming we do, I say yes we have a team.
    5. Customer emails the load info to us.
    6. The order is built with all info the customer sent.
    7. Planner is given the order number and informed its adhoc load and needs to roll now.
    8. Planner plans the load, team accepts preplan.
    9. From this point, someone in JIT is monitoring this load. Once every hour or two, the progress of this truck is checked. It may be every 3 or 4 hours.
    10. Load is picked up, loaded call sent by team.
    11. Through the entire trip, the load is monitored. Any issues come up, the team lets JIT know, and JIT makes sure that the team is tracking on time. Again, its air freight, little room for error.
    12. From time to time the customer will call, usually 5-6 times a day, looking for a progress report on the load.
    13. Team arrives, sends macro 5.
    14. Tracking ends at this point, usually.
    15. Macro 6 is sent and team awaits another load with lots of miles and very little time.
    Thats it, in a nutshell. Now with your "normal" freight customers, I honestly dont really know how the order process starts.

    And you may have a customer that is always drop and hook, no matter what, but then one day you get one and it says "live load" or "live unload". You think to yourself, well the CSR screwed up, because, lets face it, mistakes happen. But dont bank on that. There are times when a customer will want to live load or unload a trailer. Maybe they do not have any empties to load. Maybe they need to use the product you are bringing in as soon as you bring it in.

    As for CSR accountability, trust me when I say that CSR's are held accountable. But while you are held accountable by your DM, I would bet you have never gotten a phone call from a VP dressing you down. Well, that happens. And CSR's get written up, as do DM's. Why do drivers not find out about it? Honestly, you dont need to. Its a HR thing at that point, not a "driver vs everyone else".

    I find this forum entertaining, because reading through here, one would think that the "inside" people at Swift, when not on Facebook or napping, are having meetings and plotting about how to make a drivers life miserable.

    When you have some downtime at your home terminal, why not ask your DM if you can shadow them for a day. You would be surprised.
     
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  6. BigShrek72

    BigShrek72 Light Load Member

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    I dont know what place in Cicero you are talking about... But yes, mistakes happen. Shippers do not always communicate changes in policy, they just give a window of when we need to be there.

    When a driver calls and says "another driver took my load", we cannot just take that as gospel. Of course we need to know which driver took it! A mistake was made, we need to find out what happened, who made the mistake, and correct it! Would you believe your DM if he said "oh, no load today"? Thats why if you get somewhere and the shipper says "your load was cancelled", you are asked for a name and phone number. We need to know why they had us send a truck out there when there wasnt a load. ITs not that your DM doesnt believe you, its called accountability. Everyone is held accountable. I am given the freedom to do my job with very little supervision. If I do my job well, then great! But if I screw up, I am held accountable for that. And we hold our customers accountable too. Think they wont pay for that truck coming out?

    There is a record of empty trailers. You give me a trailer number, I can tell you where it is. Some trailers I can even track their exact location at any given moment. But if a driver moves a trailer without telling anyone (that never happens, right?), then suddenly the trailer is not where we know it should be! And then sometimes, customers will stockpile trailers, especially around their busy times, and not release them to drivers. There are places where empty trailers are hard to find. Thats trucking. It was like that when I started driving in 1993, and almost 20 years later, its the same way.
     
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  7. otherhalftw

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    AHA....SO YOU ADMIT IT!:biggrin_25510:

    Now we have it in black and white! We knew it was conspiracy, Desk Jockeys v Drivers!:biggrin_25524:









    Just kidding....sorry,:biggrin_2559: some things cannot be resisted!
     
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  8. Texas-Nana

    Texas-Nana Princess Drives-a-Lot

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    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:
     
  9. Texas-Nana

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    Let's be honest here Shrek......while I agree with you that not all "inside" people at Swift are "plotting" against the drivers there are those that view us as barely above animals and less than the trailers we pull.

    Just as one jerk driver can taint your view of drivers over all, it only takes a few cruddy DMs or FMs who view drivers as nothing more than cattle to make a good driver begin to feel persecuted.

    It's life. And just as we know there are good and bad drivers, we also know there are good and bad "insiders" at ALL companies.
     
  10. JustSonny

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    Similar thing happened to me in Savannah I think it was. Then they, Swift, put the burden on me to get to the bottom of it. Wanted me to give the shipper the 3rd degree basically. Why ask a driver to do something like that?
     
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  11. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    What are the job qualifications for the position of CSR?
     
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