IMHO--there is much more to this and I could come up with a multitude of scenarios--So I will just throw out a couple from my own experiences--I am an O/O who almost exclusively does LTL--quite often--keeping pre determined appts is very difficult--I do my best but with all the variables--it doesn't always happen. Thankfully I have some very good understanding shipper/receivers--Many times I call ahead and offer to pay the hour or so overtime--to save the better part of a work week(frankly there are lots of reasons)But I digress--It is totally feasable to me--that this driver--just slipped the shipping manager a couple of bucks as a Thank You and to keep up good relations--and one of the other warehouse employees saw this--and drew there own conclusions(or wanted a piece)
Also I do a lot of work w/a small family farm/trucking company that also does LTL--it is no unusual for their dispatcher/and or owner to tell one of their drivers--we gotta get that stop off today--to save this week--do whatever it takes--grease the guy--buy them dinner whatever(pretty standard)
Or this driver just may work for a s****y company--who after he dp/u late told the driver--due to his being late--they (the company)were charged a "late fee"and were passing that fee on to the driver....
So all I'm suggesting is there are a multitude of possibilities and all should be explored--remember it is easier to break a leg jumping to conclusions!
Just my$.02
False Accusation of Bribery
Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by Large Marge, Mar 17, 2011.
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I'm going to call you on this one. You are NOT "assisting with the investigation of this incident." It is obvious that your mind is already made up.
The only question is WHY is your mind already made up?
As has been pointed out, there are many different possible scenarios for this situation. There is no way that any of US can really know what happened. WE WERE NOT THERE.
So coming on here looking for some type of excuse or "out" is probably not in the best interest of "The Investigation."Texas-Nana, outerspacehillbilly, bullhaulerswife and 2 others Thank this. -
I am going to say this. Drivers don't call in complaints unless there is a problem somewhere. If he had been unloaded without issue, I don't believe that he would have had a reason to make that call. Drivers are too busy to just "decide" to get someone fired by making something like this up.
So weather or not you want to believe this perfect employee did this, you need to think about what I've said above. Was the driver harassed about being late for his appointment? If so, do you know what his day entailed? Held up in traffic, accident that kept him sitting till it was cleared? Problems with the truck that had to be repaired before he could move the truck? Many factors can make a driver late for an appointment. After all its not a perfect world. But when they are late, are they treated with respect? Or was he berated for being late? Get my drift?
There's way more to this story than what you know. And the employee in question probably isn't going to admit to doing anything wrong, but I would say its a real possibility, because he did get unloaded, and if nothing else happened, he would have been happy about the outcome, and not been motivated to make that call.roaddawg92, Irondog, Texas-Nana and 1 other person Thank this. -
Perhaps the driver was trying to get someone else into trouble, taking the heat off him for being late?
By the way, in the above post, it's "libel", not liable. And talking about suing someone in a he said, she said scenario is ridiculous, and typical trucker lore - so many truckers talk smack about suing someone for something but have never met an attorney in their life.
That said, your friend should demand a polygraph or psych eval, which can do the same thing. I've always found that when you want to see if someone's bluffing, call their bluff. -
Ma'am, with respect, I beg to differ...'
"Drivers don't call in complaints unless there is a problem somewhere."
That's a seriously blanketing statement that assumes that all drivers are honest and/or not over-reactive, and knowing the temper and maturity levels of SOME drivers, I'm quite sure that false accusations, embellishments (just like in the truckstop stories), and so on occur on a regular basis.
I think the large majority of drivers are honest and hard-working, but there's always that small percentage, like in any career field, that will trhow someone else under the bus to save their own butt. I've seen it several times with my own eyes. -
ronin,
Your correct, but they are the very few and far between.
Like I said, since the driver was late, and he still got unloaded, why in the world would he rock the boat? SOMETHING else happened.
And my husband has been on the other end of that situation, being treated like scum, because he missed an appointment. Even though he explained that it was a mechanical issue and he could not MOVE the truck, until it was fixed. I've seen THAT with my own two eyes too!
We just don't know the whole story. We don't have the drivers side, we don't have the employees side, nor the dock workers side. What we do have is hear say from a friend. Plain and simple. -
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Liable means you are responsible for something - libel is derogatory information, usually false, that is used to hurt your reputation. Not being a spelling and grammar nazi here, just good to know the difference when you're talking about suing someone for "liable".
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Now if we are going to be really technical--this has nothing to do with LIBEL--Libel is the written word--
What is being argued here is SLANDER
In both defamation must be proven--BUT one is spoken and one is written--and typically for libel to be proven--it must be published--not just put on paper--or written electronically!
You can use this for a very simplified explanation--or dig a little deeper if you like--this pretty much put's it in laymans terms!
http://www.ehow.com/how_2238562_use-libel-vs-slander-correctly.html
Just thought since--truckstop lawyering --which personally I get a real kick out of!--we might start by knowing what we are talking about when we dump on others!
Just my $.02
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