East Pay and West Pay...please explain

Discussion in 'Swift' started by Giorgio, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. Giorgio

    Giorgio Light Load Member

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    On Swift pay scale they show East and West Pay. I understand why there is a pay difference. But how do they determine that pay? Is it where your home terminal is? Or where the load originates or load destination?

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    As explained to me, load origin.
     
  4. Time

    Time Light Load Member

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    East pay has to begin and end east.
     
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  5. 1nonly

    1nonly tease-y-ness

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    You will be paid east pay if you stay east of the Mississippi the entire load. If you cross the Miss at all, or stay west of it, you get west pay. Kinda sux if you p/u in Jersey and deliver in Port Allen, LA or something like that.
     
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  6. dodgeram440rt

    dodgeram440rt Heavy Load Member

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    Actually, if the load originates OR ends west of the Mississppi, you get west pay. The load I just delivered from Houston to Columbus will have west pay. If it was vise-versa, going from Columbus to Houston, it would also pay west pay. Of course, if the load stays east or west, then you get the associated cpm. I've asked about this a couple times and that is how it was explained to me. The reason for this, they say, is because the cities are more spread out on the west side and closer together on the east side, so there is more miles on the west side.

    I say this is bullschidt. The miles are not any longer or shorter west of the Mississippi than they are on the east side. A mile is a mile. It shouldn't matter if there is 50 miles between towns or 5. And the trips all have the same kind work involved: unhook, hook, sweep out the trailer, slide the tandems, etc. There is no legitamate reason to pay less for any load running west of the Mississippi than one running east, other than to penalize the drivers.
     
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  7. inkeper

    inkeper Road Train Member

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    It may be an incentive to stay in the east where there are more metro areas with the exception of California.
     
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    So tell me...what is the difference between what 1nonly posted and what dodger did? Nothing? That's right absolutely nothing!

    However...the rule is stated (was stated, and I haven't heard it changed)...both origin and final on the East side of the Mississippi and the load pays East rate. They had this due to multi p/u's when one p/u was just over the big muddy and the majority of the miles were East.

    dodger...the average load miles on the East coast runs are about 380, compared to 500+ in the West. Add into that the traffic volume and the delays the volume creates. The additional cpm on the East isn't to penalize drivers but to offer some incentive to run in the East. It is much better now...back when...the East driver would get the higher pay even when they ran around the West, and the West driver would get the lower West rate even though the runs were all East.
     
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  9. JustSonny

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    Glad this has been explained. I've been worried sick about that penny!:biggrin_25523:
     
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  10. dodgeram440rt

    dodgeram440rt Heavy Load Member

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    Actually, the only drivers being penalized, technically, would be the east coast drivers as they take a 2 cpm hit just for crossing a big ditch. The west coast drivers would see a 2 cpm bonus for crossing the river.

    As I understand it, new drivers start out at 25 cpm. But if you drive on the west side, you get paid 2 cpm less than the east side. That seems like a penalty to me. I get plenty of 500+ miles loads on the east coast, including some 1000 trips that stay in the east. And I've had some short trips on the west side. That's why I'm saying that whole arguement is BS. The miles are the same, the work is the same. There is no reason I should get 2 cpm less just for crossing a friggen river. And if I was a west coast driver, I certainly would not be happy knowing that I'm getting 2 cpm less just because I drove in the west. It's complete BULLHOCKEY, I tell you.

    You say west side averages 500+ miles per load and east side averages 380 per load. I say if we ALL average 2500+ miles per week, what difference does it make if those miles are east or west of the Mississippi?
     
  11. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    ONE CENT?

    THAT'S IT....ONE PENNY?

    It used to be 3!

    HOW CAN THEY EXPECT YOU TO RETIRE ON ONE PENNY?:biggrin_25516:
     
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