Fmcsa tightens cdl documentation, testing rules

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Rerun8963, May 5, 2011.

  1. Volvo92906

    Volvo92906 Light Load Member

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    I think this whole thing is dumb... Its been this way for as long as I know. Maybe thats how Ohio works though.

    I had to take general knowledge, combination, and air brake tests before getting my permit. Fail one, fail them all. I had to hold my permit at least 30 days before being able to test to get a CDL. I didnt drive for a company, but I thought the same rules applied anyhow.

    I learned to drive on a 10 speed and would have much rather tested in one but all the testing site would LET ME USE was an automatic. Its whatever. I kept telling them I did not want to test in an auto, but they refused otherwise. (By the way, I only went to the testing site to test, I DID NOT go through one of these so called "Mills". I am a self taught driver being a mechanic) Now youre probably thinking "oh great... he knows nothing". Oh well then.

    I am all for these 'new' rules. I do believe they make it too easy for people to get CDL's. I mean, some people like myself can go out and get one because they can drive the #### vehicle. Others have been grandfathered in when they changed from Chauffeur license to CDL which can be iffy but is no longer done. And others really should go to a school and be challenged, or be told they arent cut out for it and move on.
     
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  3. onthefence

    onthefence Medium Load Member

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    I totally agree.
     
  4. wulfman75

    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    Don't have my manual on me but it should be on the downloadable one.
     
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    Same here. Also had to pass a pre-trip, in cab and four point before you could do any actual driving.
     
  6. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    from the Georgia state CDL manual, it does indeedd specify automatic transmissions...

    here is the link, and it's on page..1.3 (General Knowledge Section)

    http://www.dds.ga.gov/docs/forms/CDL_Drivers_Manual_4_17_09.pdf

    so as some of us can see, there are some states (Georgia fro example) that have already been doing this restriction on automatics...
     
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  7. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    No where near restrictive enough. Oh no now they have to have a stick shift endorsement :biggrin_25522:






    Please if you think the biggest issue in this industry is what transmission someone is using replace the helmet!






    A student should have their permit a minimum 6 months!
    They should not be allowed to operate without a qualified CDL holder in gthe jump seat(yeah I know there goes all those cheap teams for Swift, England, Prime, Werner for their L/O to survive on).
    Skid pad, down hill braking, and real backing tests (not that simpleton crap they do now).


    Onceagain a botched limp wristed regulation instead of real reform for training.
     
  8. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    actually tazz, there was talk about 2-3 years ago from the ATA that THEY WANTED apprenticeship training for new drivers, and for at least 2 years..!! now, i cannot find that article about this. God only knows i have tried. it was originally given to us at my former school (employer).

    can anyone imagine being an apprentice driver, with a trainer for nearly 2 years (after schooling)...??? i can't.....

    and by thew way, some people here on these boards have mentioned the schools they are going to have automatic transmissions. what are those students to do if they get a CDL with the automatic restriction, then can only find a job with a company that does NOT HAVE THEM...???

    the way i see it, THOSE schools will be charging them all over again for road time on a stick....another 'money maker" for the mills...!!

    so now more than ever, when someone wants to go to trucking school, practice time on a stick should be demanded, or go to another school...these wannabe's are going to be paying dearly if they don't....
     
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  9. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Real training where the "trainer" is actually up training not sleeping for two years would probably be overkill. But 6 months seems OK, with fast track possible with the passing of real skills testing.

    Now I understand one size can not fit all in training guidlines. You have people who barely drove.a car trying to grasp the mechanics of controlling an 80,000 articulating vehicle. These people are essentially being turned to their own devices on an amount of actual driving time most of us do in a day! That is unacceptable.
     
  10. screamin eagle

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    I just disagree with anything Ray the Hood suggests,, he is a certified idiot.
     
  11. American-Trucker

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