Can you cheat an eLog?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Meltom, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. ufovalk

    ufovalk Light Load Member

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    my company run into problems with the logs logging drivers off duty when in city limits they fixed that. then drivers would log off while driving when entering city limit then back on when leaving city they stopped that.then if drivers was in one city and going say 100 miles to load then coming back thu the same city they would pull the fuse then when they got back to city they started in plugged it back in and sent loaded mesg LOL i have done all of the above but none work now
     
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  3. TachItUp

    TachItUp Light Load Member

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    Absolutely, but I only know how to do this on a Qualcomm style device. Too many people watch this forum so I'm not going to post a how-to.

    I have gone a mile or two and pulled over back to off duty several times to keep from being over hours. This is the more known method but not especially safe. This is the box they put us in so I did what I had to do. I'm not on them anymore though.
     
  4. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Tazz must be having an apoplectic fit right about now. :biggrin_25523:
     
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  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    you learn more about how to fix issues once they're broken. I'd rather have someone else break stuff so my guys don't have to.
     
  6. sidewinder429

    sidewinder429 Light Load Member

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    MWH sucks that's what I can say.
    You will always have some miles on it. It is dependant on GPS, if that has points in the day that it doesn't work then you will have funky numbers on MWH or none at all. There are those times when short stops with a distance traveled between them that is less than the ADSC threshold setting causing the calculation to be reset to zero again and start the count all over again.

    For instance driving in the city stop light to stop light stopping at each one the ADSC calculation starts over with each stop making it possible to leap frog so to speak and never have auto duty status change to driving.
    Drive and stop before your 7/10th a mile, drive, stop again and drive, each time you stop the miles reset. and never get recorded on the drive line of the log. MWH uses instances of GPS miles traveled that are not on the drive line and gives the discrepancies on that report.

    I have encountered an issue where one can get off the exit ramp go off duty and stay off duty as long as he/she knows it will be stop and go to the destination and make those miles not be recorded as drive time.
    MWH has GPS miles traveled and no line 3 at that time generating the report.

    Hope this made sense and helped you out some.
     
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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    that makes sense, I typcially leave the MWH alone unless it shows either a long period of time, or unusually high miles.
     
  8. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    You don't need to cheat the EOBR. Don't forget that the FMCSA gives you 2 extra hours a week to park or complete the run. If you bust your hours by 30 minutes it's no big deal. Just put a notation on your log you were looking for a 'Safe Parking Haven'. If DOT wants to give you flak, show them the green book (hopefully you have one with you).
     
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  9. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    You're going to want to actually read that little green book of yours so you understand what it says... because at this point, you don't. The FMCSA does not "give you 2 extra hours a week to park or complete the run." And if you think it is "no big deal" to "bust your hours by 30 minutes", you are going to have a short but expensive driving career.

    Start with 395.1 (b) and 395.2
     
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  10. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    395.1 (B) states exactly what I stated. Maybe you should gander at the book. ;)

    I've been driving CMV's for 9 years and use this all the time with no log violations. There are instances where you'll be looking for a place to park, and not be able to find a spot to safely park within the maximum HOS. The DOT isn't going to slap you with a violation for that.

    Have you spent your 14 hour clock loading up at Wal-Mart? As Wal-Mart DC's dont allow overnight parking, you have to find somewhere to park, and you can't drive off duty with a loaded trailer.
     
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  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    What you seem to be talking about is poor trip planning, safe haven needs to be unexpected.
     
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