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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by magnum force, May 20, 2011.

  1. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    At the federal level, the voices heard in Congress all tend to belong to the carriers through their lobbying organizations... the ATA for instance. OOIDA is the only driver-oriented organization that gets a seat at the table - and they have a rather narrow interest, representing owner-operators.

    So yeah... shlock carriers love the situation. Its all that lazy driver's fault!
     
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  3. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

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    The new CVSA system bypasses due process and all the checks and balances the Constitution guarantees. A warning notice can ruin your job- you can't enact due process with a warning notice. Your career can be taken from you and you can be disqualified to work without criminal charges- or be fined several thousand dollars- over a violation of the new CVSA regs. The assumption of innocence does NOT apply here. The fourth amendment? Your cell phone, laptop, content on your social networking sights, frequent fueler cards- they can ALL be used as evidence against you. A truck inspector with a really bad attitude can wreck your future. An apathetic or narcissistic trucking company or a single office employee can do it too. DAC is NOT a government entity.

    To ensure the highest quality of compliant workers, the government and the trucking industry created an artificial driver shortage. There are so many CDL's in the system right now that if you're disqualified today, you're replaced today.
    Uncle Sam doesn't consider Truck Drivers to be skilled labor. Trucking companies don't, either.

    Point is, you're an employee with a temporary job. Hopefully you can hold out and be lucky enough to make retirement (if you can avoid the punishment of CVSA). If you're an O/O, you are nothing more than a tax advantage for a trucking company. They can sell you equipment and services or they can sell it to your replacement. It makes no difference to them.

    The Driver's Record of Duty Status is not a "Federal Document" and the CVSA is NOT an office of government. But the company you work for (or with) will tell you otherwise. Know the facts, learn the new CVSA system and make sure you can feed your family.
    'Nuff said.
     
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  4. Meltom

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    So regulations are bad?
     
  5. Injun

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    Excessive regulations aimed at protecting me from myself are bad. Regultaions that intrude on my privacy are bad. It's none of the guv'mint's business what I do on my off time, whether I spend that off time in my truck or at a house. Therefore, yes. Some regulations are bad.
     
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  6. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Some regulations are misguided, but I wouldn't say that are bad
     
  7. Tazz

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    Much better everyone be free to drive whatever they wish(I mean hell who needs brakes anyways when your a real boy), however ( hey your the biggest bad butt on the road right?), whenever they wish( just because drivers choose to take a nap at 70MPH into a school bus).


    All these intrusive laws everyone nashes their teeth about can be quite simply avoided. Quit asking for your privilege to drive a commercial motor vehicle on public highways. That simple.

    Aussie the dirty little secret everyone is avoiding is we are the government. All of us, not just drivers. So all of us (including the four wheeler that real boy is tailgating, and the medic pulling body parts out of a windshield) get to have a vote in how the rules are written and enforced. Now since some didn't get their way they invent a mass conspiracy(see CVSA rant above about CSA. Two different animals entirely) to play to a victim hood mentallity.

    Every rule is published here. Every driver is required to carry a copy of them. Those that do not or fail to read them deserve everything they get.
     
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  8. ironpony

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    You should really wake up and look around you. Thirty years ago you'd be correct, but the way this country works has changed drastically over that time.

    We're the government? You don't have enough money to call yourself the government.
     
  9. Tazz

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    Congressional elections don't still occur every two years???? Local yearly????
    All changed back in or around 1980 huh?

    Hell we have the greatest spectacle on earth fixing to fire up, I saw the red monkees at their podiums the other night seems like. The millions of zealots will soon be ramping up their cartoon like rants in the paper.

    But in the end it will still come down to people making their mark on a paper. Now it should not be that way for the President or Senators but that is a discussion for another thread and day.


    Now yes you may prove to be in the minority on the outcome but the people still place the elected officials in office.
     
  10. magnum force

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    In the normal world responsibility comes with authority.What doesn't work is when a driver is in essence telling the owner how spend his money
     
  11. Injun

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    Alright. For all of you who think due process shouldn't apply.

    Front page of The Trucker ...you know...that freebie newspaper at the truck stop that comes out every two weeks. The next phase of CSA will be rolling out. FMCSA will take it upon themselves to begin disqualifying individual drivers. Look it up for yourself. I can't link to stuff like this with my phone.

    I have not seen the disqualifying threshold.
     
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