CR England "beware"

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by wplezotte, Jul 12, 2011.

Are trucking companies sacrificing safety for $$$ ?

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  1. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Something like...

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  3. corneileous

    corneileous Road Train Member

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    IT really doesn't matter, just as long as the wind isn't hitting you broadside.

    Besides, I don't think the company will be too mad at you if they have to replace a windshield because least you remembered the proper way to park in a wind storm.
     
  4. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Like I said...backwards....put the tail into the wind...not the windshield, radiator, head lights, marker lights, fiberglass/plastic outer skin, mirrors getting torn off from debris (like branches or other flying objects.....just to name a few "little" things!:biggrin_25525:
     
  5. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    The idea is first and foremost, to get the truck off the road. Secondly, by facing into the wind, especially with an empty trailer, in REALLY high winds it's much less likely to blow over. What's worse, a pitted or damaged windshield or a blown-over truck?

    If it's just wind & rain, it ain't gonna hurt your windshield that pushes through 65 mph winds all day long. (duhh) Hail or blowing debris, well that could lead to a broken windshield but unlikely. And considering the alternative could be a truck laying on it's side, it's the better option.

    Not sure, but they might also say to park either INTO or directly AWAY from the wind. If you're parked on ice though, with an empty trailer, they'll want your aerodynamic front end facing the wind rather than the flat sided trailer doors.
     
  6. corneileous

    corneileous Road Train Member

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    If yer in that strong of wind, it don't matter how you park!
     
  7. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    One time I delivered in Fargo, ND. Middle of winter. SUPER high winds. I had to get on I-29 for like 2 or 3 miles to get to the Flying Hook, and it was terrifying. I hit an ice patch at 35 mph and almost jack-knifed. Boss wanted me to deadhead to the yard in Iowa, but I called him back and said I'm shutting down cuz of the wind and ice.

    So I get backed into the ONLY spot at the J, between two flatbeds, broadside to the wind, on top of about 6 inches of compacted snow/ice mix.

    Better than the middle of the interstate, though.

    Went inside, showered, pigged out, got back to the truck and the wind was so strong that I started slipping on ice and the wind pushed me a good 10 feet or so! I throw my bag in the truck and notice my trailer ain't straight. I KNOW I didn't park it like that, so I go around the other side and it's up against one of the flatbeds. Dude was in his bunk with the TV on so I knocked. He says "Yep, I knew you'd be knockin'." He told me that the wind had pushed the trailer up against his flatbed about 5 minutes after I got out with my shower bag. There was no damage but he suggested I not move it and straighten it out because the wind will just blow it back against his trailer again and it might break something the second time.
     
  8. corneileous

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    I have to change my opinion a little as to what I said earlier about as to who I feel is really at fault for some of these rollovers because i did some more thinking about it. I know i said before that in the three cases were the drivers fell asleep at the wheel were in my mind the fault of England because of their retarded attitude towards having to take a nap is a result of poor trip planning, non-healthy lifestyle, poor diet among other factors but what I realized, was that just because England in a sense forces their drivers to, in a way to ignore fatigue so that they won't be charged with a late load, it should still be within the driver's responsibility to pull it over if they feel they can't safely drive because they are tired. As far as I'm concerned, I'd say, go ahead and charge me with a late load. At least in the end I can say my load still made it to its destination and I didn't total a truck, total a trailer, hurt or kill myself or most importantly, hurt or kill someone else. Id still have my hard earned CDL. I may possibly be out of a job, but atleast I wouldn't have a wreckless or dangerous driving accident on my dac report or csa score.

    So, in my opinion, five out of seven of those rollovers were due to driver stupidity, not necessarily England sacrificing safety for financial gain or lack of training. I say five out of seven because supposedly, the fatal rollover is still unknown on cause. I heard it was suspected as medical reasons, but my source said it was still unknown at this point.
     
  9. Rick Brown

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    This has been going on for many years with many companies, not just CR England. You mention Knight, I worked for the Knight's back in 90, when they ran Swift. The same policies were in place there, and when I quit I brought up the training program they had. As for CR England, I worked for them and it was one of the best companies I ever worked for.
     
  10. aprils

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    They probably own the DOT
     
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  11. DamYankee

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    I wonder how England is getting by DOT with these rollovers. After i went threw CSA2010 training from DOT, just how is England or for that matter any company getting by DOT without violations and being citied for them ? According to CSA2010 it would fall on both the COMPANY and the DRIVER for any violations that occured.
     
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