Scania v8 730hp

Hello all SCANIA fans...I would like to take this opportunity to tell you all some SCANIA America "facts" ; since I was part of it's history. From 1992 until the end of 2005 I owned a 1992 P113HL 6x4 "Lorry" ; the ONLY P Model "Lorry" in the USA with the Sleeper Cab !! I convinced Scania to sell me a P113HL 6x4 Chassis Truck with the Sleeper Cab , and both side windows ( a rarity on Scania sleeper cabs ). I used the Sleeper many times , so it was well worth having it. My Scania was the LAST "customer ordered" Scania sold in the USA , before they ceased selling trucks in the USA at the end of 1992 ; because of the very poor American truck market at the time. You see, Scania only builds "x - number" of trucks each year ; and has to spread them out all over the World. So , I was told by Scania USA , that Scania Sweden said they needed the US build slots for their other World markets...sad , but true!! My Scania had many "newer" versions of components than the vast majority of Scanias sold here from 1985 to the end. My Engine , Brake Can mountings , and some other components were newer designs. I had the 340 HP Motor ; GR871 10 Spd ; and 44,000# rears with 12R22.5 Tires ; and 18,000# Front Axle. I had a 25 Ft. Flatbed Body on it. I registered it for 53,800# GVW (The Max in CT for 3-axles).The most I ever had on it was 36,000# (making me about 6,000# overweight), but it pulled the weight with no problems at all. You just had to be careful about being required to stop too quickly because some moron 4-wheeler , or traffic light , made you have to stop quicker than you wanted to. I got 10 MPG overall Fuel Mileage ALL the time !!! Unbelievable , but absloutely TRUE !!! I can honestly tell you that there was NO other Truck on the road at the time that was as technologically advanced as My Scania. All you would have had to do was drive it once and you would have agreed. It would still to this day be better liked to drive by a lot of people , because it was SOOO easy to drive. As far as the remaining Scanias seen today ; I can tell you that they concentrated their sales in the Northeast and the Indianaplois areas. There is a guy named Telmo Abreau ( TRMA Trucking and Service ) in Newark , NJ , who has bought up and Re-built as many Scanias as he can find these past years , and continues to do so. In fact he is the guy I sold MY Scania to in 2006 ; because I knew he would Re-build it and find it a new home ; which he has done. So you can thank Telmo Abreau for keeping the Scania brand alive in the New Jersey area. I have a new truck these days , and see Telmo's trucks all the time when I go to NJ. Any one with questions about this comment, can e-mail me at GRJCT@aol.com , and I will try to answer you...Thanks , Gary from CT.

A little present from the article kingQ referred to , an American scania owner!

 

I would like to have lot ofs thing in my Peterbilt too, including V12 motor Made In Japan with their Infiniti's infinite quality of design and manufacturing.
Problem is, at some point that new, unproven technology can easily start to cost you more than is profit it can generate by using it.

Under socialist rule it hard to see that point because most of the time people and whole economies are generating losses in long run anyway, so who gives a cr**
Here in US if you want to do what I'm doing - over-engineering will kill you in weeks. Right off. That's why you never want to buy new model engine or truck. Because you want others to be test-rats and watch closely what is going to happen to them over the years. And their new trucks they love so much to brag about (they are mostly immigrants anyway) - when they start putting some serious miles on them

Every smart O/O knows that from own experience and that is why our trucks are behind. We are not stupid - whats the point of trucking if you don't bring home that bacon?

 

How do u propose to fit a v12 undr that narrow bonnet and keep it cool? Once again you're assuming we are all fri
Socialist states, new models are tested and proven before they enter service here. We don't have catastrophic component failures here on new models, so what's your point? The idea of having a new motor here is for mostly fuel efficiency , driver comfort ( hard to get a driver here to drive something over 7 yrs old here) and no downtime, besides downtime is the biggest loss of revenue here rather than the repair that's why if you have a truck here, the gearbox breaks you go get a new gearbox , stick it in and have your truck back in service in 24 hrs max, gearboxes and diffs generally aint repaired here anymore

 

You need to finally focus on what is being said here instead of reading only your own posts. There are huge differences between US and EU. The biggest is speed and yearly mileage. It takes truck that is able to go well past million miles without major problems to have a good O/O life and make more money than driver does.

In other words, we like to be debt free in general. With no truck payments, unlike those people without brain. That is part of the freedom you don't have and it comes from long-lasting, simple trucks that are comfortable enough to drive them for so long.

So, you Euro-style Volvos VN are not in much demand anymore, did you know that?

 

That is why there is no out and out winner.
No one product can be all things to all people.
The reason I stuck my nose in to this discussion is because I have experience with American and European trucks.
When I was a driver it was well over 95% American trucks.
Later on as a small fleet owner it became a mixed bag.
I don't see the necessity to try and cut off your opponents head to try make your self look taller.
The straight forward simplicity of American trucks is a huge positive in a lot of ways.
The sophistication and level of advancement in European trucks make them a pleasure to work with.
In those old photos posted a few posts before this one there are some bullnose Mercedes trucks.
These were built along the lines of the straight forward simplicity.
We have 2 off these 1924 bullnose trucks we use as yard donkeys.
40 years old , their US equivalent here at the time B Model Macks and Diamond T.
We also have some DAF LF55 (Pacar) straigh trucks that drive like a Cadillac but I don't see them lasting 10 years.
As I said before no truck can be all things to all people.
The Scania is really a great piece of machinery and cost per mile is one of the lowest in the correct hands.
I however have never been able to bring myself to buy one.
Probably the same reason the mega fleets don't buy Kenworth and Petes in the thousands.

 

Well, there is surprise - huge sales of T700 and 587 to big fleets. I see them every day - all 2012 models. Appparently even them learned their lesson with Volvos, Prostars and Cascadias

 

it is really funny to see this thread. US and EU trucks share engine technologies and engines! and so belive me, no notisable difference in milage.

Yep, the drifference #1 that EU lenth limits were not canseled like in US so EU drivers have to drive short cabovers. But EU cabin is MUCH MORE SILENT and much smoother.

In Europe trailers are with 3 axes so 4x2 trucktors are popular. In UK 6x2 and 6x4.

yeah, EU trucks are more complex with modern electronic features like ECAS, EBS and disk brakes in standard. In the USA all these toys are optional, but as I know from 2012 EBS and disk brakes will be standard in the USA.

Fortunatly no electronic logbooks in the USA, like tachographs in Europe.

Anyway EU truck vs US truck is like EU standards vs US standard.

I'm not only one here who used to drive European trucks and US trucks. I towed US trailers with European trucktors, I operated US trucktors with European trailers and I did some US to EU conversions (not emission only). So it is really funny how do you try to compare trucks.

 

i see you are an expert in economic models
go and loan for a useless cr*p and return your credit till the end of your life!
oh!yeah! american dream ,spending more than you earn...