Elogs and paper

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Rbeau1990, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. Rbeau1990

    Rbeau1990 Light Load Member

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    Is it legal to use elogs and still run a paper log book as well? Paper as a back up, Not to mention it gives me something to prove experience and proof for per-Diem at the end of the year.

    If not what is the regulation that limits it.
     
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  3. Nashville Driver

    Nashville Driver Medium Load Member

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    I would have to research that in the FMCSA manual. I do know when my company went on Peoplenet, the safety department told us to keep one log book as a back up, but that it was agaist company policy to use them both at anytime. Also if the Peoplenet went down, complete the whole 24 hours in the book and the next day after returning the computer remove one of the copies and include it with the manifest.
     
  4. Subzero1985

    Subzero1985 Light Load Member

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    Are you talking about jumping back and forth between the 2?
     
  5. AZS

    AZS Honk if anything falls off

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    you can just print the elogs at the end of the year for tax purposes.
     
  6. Lantern

    Lantern Road Train Member

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    No, it's not legal.

    You can only have 1 log at all times. Unless I misread the FMCSA, but it clearly states that in my bible. I'll find the exact number I read this at in a few minutes.
     
  7. Rbeau1990

    Rbeau1990 Light Load Member

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    Both at the same time. Identical logs
     
  8. Rbeau1990

    Rbeau1990 Light Load Member

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    Ill have to see if roehl will do that. Right know they have me doing paper logs as well as elogs
     
  9. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    They will not be identical. E logs are to the minute. Paper logs are to the quarter hour. If you take the E log time stamp and log it legally on paper it will be different from the E log.

    If you are on QualCom they have a website where you can download PDF files of your logs. I make a habit of doing it periodically.

    I do it monthly for tax purposes and occasionally at other times so I have a back up of my logs in case the system goes down. In that case you have to switch to paper. Having that PDF file makes getting the past 7 days much easier.
     
    Dave_AL Thanks this.
  10. Rbeau1990

    Rbeau1990 Light Load Member

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    whats the website
     
  11. childerscarl1

    childerscarl1 Medium Load Member

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    I think every one is missing the main point here, electronic logs are prone to problems. Its a computer program and depends on verification with gps, and sattilite, wifi ,and cellular link. any of these have a hicup and your e-log is incorrect.

    I run a paper log along with my e-log just for back up and also because I slip seat between two trucks, one truck has e-logs and the other dosent. As for fmcsa legal Im not sure they have made a policy on this yet and really any dot officer or state tropper is gonna look at the e-log and compare it to the paper log and see that they are practically the same except one logs by the minute and paper is quarterly.
     
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