'04 Series 60 getting fuel in my coolant

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  1. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    Lame-hopefully it will be a fairly quick job once they get around to it, I know that's frustrating though.
     
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  3. mackdaknyfe

    mackdaknyfe Light Load Member

    They finally got it in the shop. It's the cups. They tell me that they don't have an engine mechanic in on the weekend so it should be finished on Monday.
    Any clue what it should cost me?
     
  4. mackdaknyfe

    mackdaknyfe Light Load Member

    Just got the estimate. $2105.00
    It's a lot more than I wanted to pay but less than I expected. I hope they get it done today. This motel is getting expensive.
     
  5. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    If you are using DCA4 coolant additive that is the cause of it eating the copper sleeve.
    Just a thought!
     
  6. mackdaknyfe

    mackdaknyfe Light Load Member

    Thanks I'll sure keep that in mind.
     
  7. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    The additive eats copper? What kind of additive should be used in these engines?
     
  8. porema

    porema Bobtail Member

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    I had same on mine. 24 h in the shop and 1700+tax bill
     
  9. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    I have opened a lot of engines and the best at reducing liner pitting and the internal corrosion of Aluminum and Cooper is Nal-cool, Power-cool. I became a believer when a customer drought in his truck and had us do a flush, and add Nal-cool to his near new 3406B, these trucks hauled chips and went 22 hours a day two trips over two mountains, each way. They had a head gasket failure at 700,000K which was totally normal. We had multiple engines apart at the same time all the time cutting the blocks to lift #4, 5, and 6 liners and having the head modified to get more coolant flow. To do that you have to remove #3, 4, 5, and 6 cylinder kits. When I removed the ones that had DCA4 they were pitted severely, heavily corroded at the upper band area and lower seal area, and coated in green slime at the top of the liner area. A completely normal finding.
    The ones with the Nal-cool were like new with very little pitting, and no corrosion in the seal area. The water pump cover that we regularly replaced, as a normal replacement item was like new, the thermostat housings were not corroded.
    I was very impressed, I got a bottle and added it to the wife's Caprice, it is a 1993 305 with an aluminum rad the original one. I, and 90% of all original equipment dealers use Dex-cool, Power-cool, or Nal-cool, coolant. You really want a filter, to get rid of the sediment that is in all new units, and from coolant additive drop out. If it is an older unit it takes a long time to clean out the scale, green slime that is in the system and you need to do a flush with restore to help the process along then use Arm and Hammer Washing soda with a little Dawn dish washer soap to clean it out. When it comes out clean, do a couple of flushes with clean water, then add the Coolant. You buy test strips, cheap and replace the filter with either a additive package or a 0 filter.
    I have seen newer trucks with DCA4 corrode out the injector tubes in a year in N14's, and Cummins did not want to cover it even though it was their engine and coolant additive.
    Just a thought!
     
    josh.c Thanks this.
  10. mackdaknyfe

    mackdaknyfe Light Load Member

    Still waiting for them to finish. They now say that I need a cam, rockers, injectors and injector cups. So far it's been at the shop for two weeks while I'm sitting in a motel.
    They say it will be done next Tuesday or Wednesday.
    I'm sure losing a lot of money here.
     
  11. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    Wow, that's crazy. They should've been able to do a whole inframe by now. I feel for 'ya.
     
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