Question about the 70 hour/8 day rule

The 34 hour reset is the OPTION that can be used by the driver. I don't really know if you want to tell your boss you can work 8 hours a day, 365 days a year!

 

see thats where im confussed. heres my example line 1 total says = 70 on 7th day. line 2 total hours avail tomorrow 70 -70 =0 that is saying to me no more work for 34 consec.

 

No, after 24 hours you would have whatever hours available that you worked 7 days ago.

 

All you have to do is take 24 hours off. Then the next day you have the number of hours that dropped off. This is how it was done for years before restarts and it can still be done this way.

0.....0
10...10
10...20
10...30
10...40
10...50
10...60
10...70
0....70
10...70
10...70
10...70
10...70
10...70
10...70
10...70
0....70
10...70

It just keeps going.

 

EDIT: I'm a slow typer. This is @nuts&bolts.

No, that's saying you can't do any work on day 8. On Day 9, you can do however much work you did on day 1. That's the essence of the rolling recap.

However, in your example, taking a 34 hour restart (which you're likely to get anyway, since you can't do anything on day 8 anyway) gives you a fresh 70 and is a HUGE bonus for you, instead of just getting back 9.5 or whatever you worked on day 1.

It's been said already, but you could technically work 8.75 hours every day ad infinitum and it would be perfectly legal. The rules can be basically boiled down to say that in any given 8 day period, your working hours can't exceed 70. EXCEPT if you get 34 consecutive hours off...in which case you reset your 70 hour clock.

If you can learn to understand the way the HOS work first, pretending that the 34 hour restart doesn't exist (because it's not a mandatory part of the rules), you're well on your way to never being confused by the HOS again.

Until they change them.

 

Wrong, you can only drive 11 hours during a driving period so theoretically

midnight - noon (11 hours + time for a pretrip,post trip, and fuel stop)
10 hour break makes it 10pm, you then have 2 hours left, so you can knock out about another hour and 45 minutes. = 12.75 hours.

 

12 hours of on duty is not unreasonable with 11 hours driving in a day.

I see what you did there!

Actually, it was done a little more like this...

10...10 8AM-7PM
12...22 3AM-2PM, 10PM-12AM
14...36 12AM-9AM, 5PM-12AM
14...50 12AM-4AM, 12PM-11PM
10...60 7AM-6PM
10...70 2AM-1PM
0...70
0...70
10...70 12AM-11AM

Note there is an hour of off duty in each driving stint.

But it should be plain that you could easily sit 2 1/2 days under the old way, and often did have to start at midnight as soon as you had hours. The 34 hour reset lets a lot of us have our weekends at home w/o major logbook finagling every Monday morning!

 

Because the teamsters are good at delivering votes, and they want their brotherhood to have the weekends off. All of that horse flop comes from their comments, like the soon to be mandated break comes from OOIDA saying that poor old drivers were being forced to run because of the fourteen hour clock non stop. All of these new changes are trying to accomodate all the bs people had with the first" new" set everyone filed lawsuits over.

 

Before the 34 hour reset anyone working 12 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week, under the 70/8 ran out of hours for Monday 6x12 = 72. While a guy working 11 hours for 5 days always had 15 [ 6 x 11 = 66 - 11 = 15]

Now you can work 14 hours a day 5 days aweek 14 X 5 = 70 and have a reset over the weekend and have hours to work on Monday.

 

While I forgot to mention it in this thread, I am all for a reset if it is taken at home! Then it makes perfect sense to me.