Dot warning tickets.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by magnum force, May 20, 2011.

  1. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    I won't post what I was thinking!
    It just isn't worth it!!!
     
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  3. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    If it's not about the money, what is it about? Safety? Oh yeah! :biggrin_25524:
     
  4. Tazz

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    Hate. Not likely. You have to love something to hate it.

    But all this absolute silliness begs the question if all these regulations are entirely about revenue generation explain the hundreds of thousands of satisfactory findings during roadside inspections a year. There are far more clean inspections issued than cited ones. Last number I saw was about 30% during one of their fancy we are finally gonna do our job blitzes. That means for the mathematically challenged the three in ten drivers recieved a citation or notice of deficiency while seven in ten recieved satisfactory marks.


    Now if money was the chief reason wouldn't you expect those numbers to be reversed? Or could it be that 70% of professional drivers actually did their job and 30% are looking for a scapegoat for their failures. And that in fact flying in the face of logic they make absurd claims of collusion and conspiracy rather than admit their failures?






    Funny I hear a lot of drivers admit their are plenty of drivers, equipment, and companies that need removed from public highways, yet when laws mandating conduct, equipment, and fitness somehow it becomes a money issue. 25% of the trucks I see on the road need removed or repaired or repowered by a competent driver.

    Maybe you should look around you. If the three trucks near you look good to go..........you may be the one thinking it is about revenue?
     
  5. magnum force

    magnum force Light Load Member

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    But when I saw my drivers falling out and told the owner what I thought.He hired another one. Some people have been there others pretend!!!!!!:biggrin_25510:
     
  6. shredfit1

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    Look, there is no argument that unfit equipment needs to come off the road... However, regulations are 'off the hook' out of hand.

    It's so bad that Mr. DOT could 'out of service' a truck (ANY truck) straight off the showroom floor. Moreover, there are so many regulations that many unsafe conditions can/do get overlooked and the driver is written a ticket for some BS reason... Off the top of my head, "a ticket for no Haz-mat emergency response guide"... something first responders all carry.

    And again, I see many trucks not, 'good to go' get looked over by Mr. DOT where all the lights and horn work, tire are semi(pun?) OK... and they get a good to Go from Mr. DOT.

    Now let's 'imagine' it IS about safety. The powers that be could issue a directive that states, "any truck found to be unsafe and put out of service.... carrier will lose authority, driver will lose license. In short order, the junk would come off the road, as would the derelict drivers.
     
  7. magnum force

    magnum force Light Load Member

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    Sometimes I get sarcastic.
     
  8. Scalemaster

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    Isn't that what the CSA 2010 program is about?
     
  9. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Not yet but with any luck yes. Right now it is simply a record system with no real new teeth.

    Some initiative's have been floated like authority being linked with alert status, and consequences for drivers that are habitual offenders sadly for now all it does is record failure after failure after failure.........
     
  10. Tazz

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    OOS an off the showroom floor? Yeah sure ya betcha:biggrin_2552:

    All reg's are published and in fact you as a driver are required to know them. You'll get no sympathy from me for not having a guidebook for hauling hazmat when you are aware it is required and is readily available.


    I whole heartedly agree we need officers actually doing their job. If they catch 30% OOS during one of their blitzes do they think that some miracle of fate caused all those subpar trucks on the road that one specific day? Nope on any given day they are driving on the same exact road as my family and I. You would think they would want them removed as a matter of self preservation being out here as much as we are. But laziness is limited to no profession. I have a THP Officer irritated with me for calling him in when he answered my question of why out of the three options he had he chose me. His response was " It's to early to get nasty under those logging trucks and that dump had something running out of it".

    I called his Troop while he was busy going over my truck. I have no idea if it will do any good but he has been up on 231 pulling some of those stick haulers the last couple of times I ran through there.


    And I second the notion of penalties with teeth. I'm all for automatic suspension of both drivers and companies for serious violations like speeding, erratic lane changing, reckless driving. Lifetime suspensions for DUI, vehicular manslaughter, assault with a vehicle.



    But as soon as you stop this catch and forgive plea bargain bs failures rely on now watch the tit wringing and the teeth nashing begin. People believe they have a right to these roads. They do not, they enjoy the privilege of their use.
     
  11. shredfit1

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    Not really, it's just more regulation repackaged. Now, drivers will not even risk blowing the whistle on the employer because it can damage their future.

    Besides, name some carriers that have been shut down due to CSA 2010...
     
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