Paperless logs

15 minutes is all they spend with you on eLogs? Wow, I wish I could get away with that. I do 30 minutes of class and then spend another 30 minutes one on one with the driver to run thru questions and get them signed into the truck.

 

All I can say, is that speaks to the quality of driver that you hire... E-Logs are not that hard. I even had students figure it out in a matter of minutes on their own. It is not that hard...

 

you're telling me.

 

I've been keeping my elog along with my official paper log, it is really suprising how close the two are even though one is in fifteen minute increments and the other is to the second. I had a South Carolina dot officer look at my logbook and I told him that, his comment was that if you do it right there won't be much difference. He couldn't get rid of me fast enough to get to the next truck.

 

Well i got my class this morning. as I suspected everything they showed me I had already figured out yesterday playing with it. Oh well, I'm 50 miles from consignee and don't have to be there until 9am. Sleepin in!

 

According to Landline on XM last Friday night it is no longer legal to use E-logs even by companies that choose to do so voluntarily. According to them, the recent ruling by the 7th court of appeals that voided FMCSA's rule mandating EOBRs on the "bad actors" also made EOBRs illegal in total for the purpose of tracking hours of service.

 

I believe that ruling only eliminated the "mandating" of them but didn't say they couldn't be used...At least all the links I could find on the ruling said that...

 

http://www.landlinemag.com/todays_news/Daily/2011/Nov11/110711/111111-01.shtml

 

Even OOIDA's website doesn't say that carriers cannot use EOBR's. The ruling was against the FMCSA proposed mandate. Carriers can continue to voluntarily use EOBR's. The concern was whether a driver would be harassed into working when tired and whatnot because of EOBR showing driving available even though the driver is tired.

There is no harassment except that which a driver allows. No one is forced to work for any carrier. There are plenty of carriers that use EOBR's and do not use it against the driver in any way. My carrier switched over to EOBR use last year. I have never been hassled in any way about my hours. I decide when I will move.


Federal Judge Diane P. Wood issued the court's opinion on Aug. 26 that vacated the agency's EOBR regulation, which was referred to in the industry as the "bad actor" rule. She ruled that the agency had not properly addressed driver harassment.

The regulation tossed by the court didn't just mandate the use of EOBR on chronic HOS- violating companies. It set specifications for the units; allowed for voluntary use of the units; and gave EOBR-using motor carriers a free pass on some of the supporting documents regulation.

 

The real issue seems to be what devices were legal before June 2010 .