NEW 10 Meter Radio

All I was saying is that when I was studying for my license it was considered to be "poor operating practice" to use 10m for local contacts, not to "listen for openings". Apparently this, (like a lot of other things both in and out of amateur radio), has changed.
I still believe that it is "poor practice" to use 10m for local contacts (less than 300 miles), and always will.
The area I live in has more than adequate 2 meter coverage for local usage, I see no need to profane a DX band for the purpose of doing what the 2m, 1.5m, 70cm and 11m bands can accomplish with equal ease, while listening for openings in 10m, which can be accomplished without using 10m to talk "across the street". I look at it this way, if I continue what I was taught as "good operating practice" on 10m, you'll have one less 10m operator to "contend with" for the first few minutes of any 10m openings! We each enjoy our hobby for different reasons and in different ways! 73 and have a gr8 day.


Dale
K7DFA

 

I have NO IDEA where you got the idea 10 meters is for DX any more than 2 meters is or is not. I use 10 FM 99% of the time and SSB ( 28.450 Tues 7PM ) for a local net. As most know I'm a 2 Meter SIMPLEX person it is my band of choice for more than 45 years.

THAT SAID ......

If 10 is WIDE OPEN then 2 would be a wiser choice just to avoid interference a common sence move ....

 

O.k., Here's where I got the "nonsensical" idea that 10m is best used only for the excellent DX openings it provides. My "Elmer" who shall remain nameless (due to his SK status), always listened in 10m, when he would encounter a local QSO in progress, once he knew that it was a local QSO, he would ALWAYS tune past it without saying a word either on or off the air!
When the inquiry was made, he told me that: "Only 'lids' and intruders use 10m for local QSOs". I never saw him make an exception to his rule, although he probably would for an emergency. The closest he ever came to "breaking" his 10m rule was using a 10m satellite "down-link", the resulting QSO (the xmt freq. he used was either 2m or 70cm, I forget which, it was about 16-17 years ago) was with an operator over 3,000 miles away, which means that he really wasn't even "bending" his rule.
I had/have a lot of respect for my SK friend/"Elmer" and I have followed the same "rule" since, and still hold his belief that the entire 10m band SHOULD be used only when it is "open" as being "good operating practice".

"The way you train is the way you operate" and using a HF band for local QSOs can leave the mistaken impression that it's o.k. to do that, even when the band is "open". This almost as much as my "Elmer's" operating habit is why I still hold the belief that even the 10m band SHOULD be used only when it is "open".

Is my belief, and that of my "SK" "Elmer", mistaken? Maybe.
If my deceased "Elmer" and I are mistaken in this belief did/does it make either of us a "lid"?
I don't believe so.
Does/did it make me/my deceased "Elmer" a "better operator"?
Probably not, but it did/does keep the 10m band that much less "crowded" (1 less operator calling "CQ", or "CQ DX"), for the first few minutes of the next opening and possibly for the entire opening.



I'm not telling anyone how to operate their own station, (that's none of my business), I was just saying that this is how I currently operate mine, how my "Elmer" operated his, and what I believe to be "good operating practice" with regard to 10m.

2m is also my "band of choice", though I am "forced", by having to place my antenna indoors to use the repeater sub-bands (not enough range on simplex), that does not mean that I do not enjoy or use the 10m band, I take my station mobile/portable, because having an indoor antenna on 10m just isn't "practical" IMO, most especially since the ceiling in my apartment is only 8' high and the builders used metal corner-bead in sealing the sheet-rock interior, (it messes with the antenna impedance, since the room isn't large enough to get the 10m antenna far enough away from the walls/corners, and the 1/4 wave length antenna is just about 8' tall).



As for using 2m when 10m is "WIDE OPEN", the "common sense move" is to "listen before you transmit" and maybe even ask: "Is the frequency in use"?
I have no problem with using the 10m band when it is "open". I also can't claim 45+ years of experience in amateur radio/on any band my first amateur radio license was issued a mere 18 years ago.

I have no further comment on this subject.
No further comment is solicited or will be "joined".
Have a gr8 week.
Best regards.
DE: K7DFA

 

Really dont understand what the problem with using 10 meter for local QSO's could be. The SSB section is large, starting at 28.300 and up, to accomodate most anyone that wants to call CQ. When the band is "dead" ie no skip, you will not hear anyone on it anyway, so "local" QSO's shouldnt interfere with anyone beyond the range of the ground wave.
Seems to me that given the current climate to auction off and reassign "Unused, or underused" portions of the wireless spectrum, it would be in the best interest of hams to keep the available bands in use when possible. http://www.pcworld.com/article/186434/fcc_warns_of_impending_wireless_spectrum_shortage.html

 

The ONLY band that might be inpacted is the 70cm band even 2 meters is too low to be of use ....

Myself I use 2 for local stuff but also 10 and 6 all the time .... lets not forget 223 mhz im on that one too.

ANOTHER point is 10 and 2 meters are HAM world wide unlike 223 or 70 CM and 10 can be heard across borders as we know from the liiegal taxies.

Bruce

My 6 and 2 meter station more than 45 years ago..

 

sorry to say but the Stryker line of radios are poorly made and would not buy one the boards they are made on are like wafer boards and crack very easy after about a yr would go with a galaxy or rci

 

What do you expect for a radio that has no reason to be built well .... or even pass some kind of certification.

 

lol i know right they are all show and no go