Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    Have you ever driven a 1970's era cabover cross country with a spring ride trailer?
     
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  3. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    So much for those E-LOGS and EOBR'S making the roadways safer. This morning I-74 mm46 east bound side East of Crawfordsville, Indiana. Conway driver pulling Doubles laid it over off the southside of the interstate. Tractor and first pup on leftsides and back pup flipped over on its right side. Not raining or foggy. He just went off the edge of the road. This was in daylight around 8:00 AM. Just wondering where the safety comes into play????
     
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  4. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    The complaint is that the elog is not realistic. When the truck stop is full and you have to go to the next rest area to take your 10 hr. I don't sleep for 10 hours, but maybe 7. Now I have to sit for 3 hrs. until I can go to the next place down the road to get some breakfast or coffee. Sorry I ain't a robot!
    I'm less than an hour from the house and now I have to stop for 10 hours because I will be in violation after being 3 weeks out on the road? Sorry, I'm heading to the house!
    Your dispatcher now dispatches you according to when the computer says your break or reset is done. Your now considered a machine instead of a driver.
    Get my drift???
     
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  5. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Nails had to be pounded in by hand, office records were kept on paper and real secretaries answered real phones and knew how to type 80wpm without the backspace key. The point is, people do jobs to earn money. Some of us are lucky enough to find we like doing what we do.

    During the Carter recession, people did what they had to do in order to pay their bills. Yes, some of them entered truck driving as a result of economics. Since the farm was lost or the mill shut down, they had nothing else to go back to. So they remain in a job they detest until they retire.

    Quality of equipment has nothing to do with it.

    Have you ever crawled around on your hands and knees in the dark, the only light you can see is the fire that wants to kill you with 80 pounds of gear on your back? We still do that by hand.
     
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  6. Cowpie1

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    The E Log is realistic, it is just that you have to plan and operate more efficiently. You may have to shut it down a little sooner than going right up against the 11 driving so that you can get a parking spot. Regarding less than an hour away from the house when you run out of time? Been there, done that. Just go to Off Duty, drop the trailer somewhere, and then do an Off Duty Driving to the house. Done that several times. All legal, by the way. Even did one of those last weekend.... 145 miles away from the house. Still got home on Friday eve and enjoyed the weekend. Then it was an Off Duty Driving back to the trailer later with no interruption to the reset. Yes, it will require that you do some thinking and work out places in the vicinity of your home area to do something similar. Sorry, can't help you with that one. I have developed several secure locations, in all directions, in the event I need to drop a trailer and go on to the house.

    You do have to use the gray matter between your ears once in a while and think your way thru a problem with E logs. They are not as restrictive and hand tying as some perceive them to be. This coming December, I will have 1 full year on E logs and am doing just fine revenue wise as when on paper. Just have to do a little more planning and communicating with people to work around any restrictions that pop up. Instead of making you more like a machine to dispatch, you actually have to become a thinking driver and not a steering wheel holder. Some people just don't have that in them. Oh, you don't have to stop anywhere for 10 hr break all the time.... remember, think! There is a provision called the split. 8 and 2 in the regs. Use it to your advantage when you can. I will use that one today to work around a schedule/break problem.
     
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  7. Cowpie1

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    EOBR's will not help those that are stuck on stupid. Your analogy had nothing to do with whether the driver was on an E log or not. They don't steer the truck for you. Just like the EOBR had nothing to do with the deer I turned into ground venison last night. Just love that deer guard on the front of the truck!
     
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  8. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    The thing is certain drivers want to preach EOBR'S AND E-LOGS off on every other driver stating they are so safe and they are all about safety and they will protect drivers more and My opinion is they are full of crap. **** happens and your EOBRS AND E-LOGS AIN'T GONNA DO NOTHING TO STOP IT. Get off the band wagon. :biggrin_25522:
     
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  9. cowboy_tech

    cowboy_tech Road Train Member

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    WOW! Talk about iron fist. I'm glad you're just a driver and not a lawmaker.

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  10. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Well maybe,but my point is that these cheerleaders are so dead set on safer roads etc but I wonder just how many of these cheerleaders break other laws, such as speeding or possibly rolling that stop sign when no one is around etc? They like to hammer on the drivers that might fudge 15-30 minutes on their paper logs but do they look at themselves in the mirror when they break other laws.
     
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  11. rollin coal

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    I have to do the same kind of planning with software on my laptop for logs as you do with elogs. I also help load planning and even look for loads.

    You try explaining to Mr DOT man dropping your trailer 145 miles from home and bobtailing over your 11/14 when you get caught. Lol, see you in court Mr "compliant". And try pulling that stunt with a high value load... That's right,you don't care you drive for someone else right?
     
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