HOS VS Brains

Not if the proposed rule comes through like most suspect it will.Part of my issue with the new rule is the part about on duty being restricted to 14 hours. Not just driving inside the 14 hours but on duty period.

Actually with the mandatory break your only going to be allowed 13 hours on duty.

 

Perhaps YOU don't need to be "told how to be safe," but there are enough idiots out there that do need to be regulated, and told "how to be safe" that we all end up suffering the consequences.

I don't necessarily disagree with where you're coming from, but the fact is that when someone in your industry deprives someone of their life due to negligence and wreckless disregard of the laws of the road and it happens frequently enough, the public will demand accountability and protection from the cowboys who cannot figure the deal out.

Even the government admits that they cannot objectively determine when a driver is fatigued except in extreme situations at the side of the road. They protect the public from idiots by establishing the HOS regulations, under the assumption that if you manage to get some sleep in a somewhat "normal" framework of 10 hours off - you probably won't be fatigued to the point of insensibility.

...although considering some of the responses to this subject, "they" (the government) may be completely wrong about their assumptions on a regulatory remedy to driver fatigue.

 

i must have missed something but i never had a company make me do anything they always asked, but maybe thats why i was with my last company 24 years

 

Actually fatigue from lack of sleep is scientifically verifiable and measurable. The effects on attention, alertness, concentration, reasoning, and problem solving are all observable and measurable.

See above

If you want to put this in the Political thread please do.

 

The problem with all these hos and fatigue issues is that they want to make laws that treat everyone the same, when we all have a different body clock. I would like to see the hos go away. There would still be some who would drive tired and others that would not drive safely. That happens now with the current hos. It will also happen with those who use EOBR's. You will NEVER be able to regulate safety. You can put another 10,000 laws on the books about safety and there will still be tired drivers, there will still be accidents and there will still be people that will die on our roads. As long as there are people there will be unsafe drivers and bad things will happen. My theory is that if we get rid of the hos and allow drivers to do their job when they are rested and to take a break when tired that the roads would at least be as safe as they are today, if not more. The government is afraid to get rid of the hos or even to do a study to see if it would be viable or make roads less safe to get rid of the hos. They would lose too much revenue. These fatigue rules are much too subjective and too easily abused by law enforcement. When the state or locals need more revenue they go find some fatigued drivers to bail them out. I don't understand why so many feel that the government is the answer to any problem.

 

Many times the hours of service cause me to drive fatigued.

The company where I was a company driver expected you to drive when you had the hours.

Slept till 9 in the morning dropped and spend the day waiting for a load and get one at 6. But you have been off all day. Supposedly sleeping right after you got up.

Now they expect you to drive all night, since the LOG HOURS now say you are rested and able.

 

Pretty much a waste of time to respond to this.

No you were talking about what the American government should do; Regulating Liberty, the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. Since the definition of politics includes "the art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs, you were talking politics.

Political science?