Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I am in safety, just not a director. Beats me what they did before I started in Feb of last year, time flies. On the bright side we've improved out CSA score for fatigued driving 10.6%!
     
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  3. Tazz

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    So following this logic Bendix is the reason for auto slack adjusters. Sylvania for the 1 3 1 light configuration. 3M for conspicuity tape. And JJ Keller for log books. Labcorp for the controlled substance policies. Maybe Goodyear for tread depth guidlines?


    Jeez you people crack me up. The technology existed first. People saw it was superior.



    People always play chicken little.

    The CDL was gonna kill trucking. Nope just made people pay attention to the tickets they got because they couldn't just go to the next state.

    All of the revisions of the HOS was gonna cause mass genocide because drivers couldn't be safe under them. Again nope no increase and in fact decreases.

    CSA will cripple trucking because a light will get your authority suspended. Nope.

    Drivers will be in the unemployment lines by the hundred thousands because the appeal process is unfair. Well I believe I have seen exactly two posts of drivers being fired on here. Hardly scientific Imll grant you but you would think more if the fairy tales were proving true.

    Elogs will tell you when to run. No more or less than your log book does now.
    Elogs will cause mass homicide on the highway. Well we've heard that one before now haven't we?

    All the chicken littles in ten years will be declaring that mobile document checks(read mandatory pre pass) are going to cripple the industry. They will be just as wrong as those nashing their teeth over elogs.
     
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  4. G/MAN

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    There have been a lot of drivers and owner operators who have lost their jobs or contracts due to CSA. I have spoken to other carriers who have gotten rid of those with too many points or tickets. The reason was stated as being CSA. Under the new rules driver points also affect carriers and their safety records. According to your post safety is up after the current hos were introduced, so I don't understand why you would support EOBR's? Roads are safer so why mess with something that is working?
     
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  5. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Yeah heard anectdotal evidence myself. Even heard a couple of our customers questioning our plans to bring the numbers under control. Industry is still moving. Haven't seen the mass exodus out of or into the industry by hundreds of thousands everyone was and still is saying.

    Sure some companies have chosen to go with more compliant companies. Guess they feel people with the attention to detail to maintain low numbers will use the same attention to their freight.

    EOBR's are about compliance with the HOS. Not fool proof no but far better than paper and white out used now so no conflict in believing while it has gotten better, it can be improved with higher compliance.
     
  6. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Paper and white out are alot cheaper though. If the safety department at these trucking companies would just do thier jobs along with the drivers and check logs and punish drivers and dispatcher alike then the problem would be solved without the EOBR'S AND ELOGS. Save alot of money and wouldn't allow for the unneeded intrusion of spyware.
     
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  7. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Actually... yes.


    Or, maybe.


    I do have first-hand experience with this sort of thing and the answer is that yes, in fact, sometimes the implementation of new rules is based on the efforts of companies in providing a solution to a question no one asked.
     
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  8. RickG

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    Paper and whiteout can be expensive when audited .
     
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  9. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The thread topic is Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing. . Safety wants drivers to fight tickets to avoid CSA points .
     
  10. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    How exactly is an elog which does nothing a paper and white log book does(exempt make it harder to lie) qualify as spyware?


    I agree companies should correct, instruct, manage, or fire people they have problems with following the HOS. Folks we are not talking about companies knowing about them. They already do and internally can adress it or turn a blind eye to it. It is about LEO's and Investigators being able to find them.
     
  11. shredfit1

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    Interesting, a few posts ago you declared adamantly that EOBR's were about safety, even posted a study on the topic.(only to be shot down in a few posts)

    Why the paradigm shift?
     
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