Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

So if you want to talk about others then first look in the mirror...

 

Just because you can pick out a few bad apples doesn't mean you cut down the whole tree... For some reason you seem to think as a needy legislator...

 

I agree. I loathe laws & regulation in place of common sense.

I don't believe that there should be helmet laws for motorcycles either (except perhaps for passengers that are minors).

I do believe your insurance company should have the recourse of not paying for injuries sustained as a result of not wearing your seatbelt. I'd have to say the same should apply for not wearing a motorcycle helmet.

I've heard the "only survived because they weren't wearing a seatbelt" story too many times. In 15 years as a Paramedic in a variety of EMS systems I never once saw evidence of the fabled "saved by not wearing a seatbelt" accident. The folks that were unfortunate to be trapped in a vehicle (pin job) - were trapped because the vehicle had been crushed around them; they weren't going anywhere seatbelt or not.

I'm not saying it hasn't happened - but that it is so infrequent as to make the argument moot.

 

Might be a problem for the locals - but not the Feds.

They've been playing fast and loose with our civil rights for quite some time, and in many cases the technology companies have been more than happy to provide warrant-less access to electronic communications.

 

So WHat is it then? Safety or your Privacy? Seems that if someone ran over your family that your clutching in your picture you would have same attitude???,oh yeah officer never mind that driver is due his PRIVACY
(This is a rant)

WELL? ,,,I could care less if your truck has or has not a EOBR,,,If you dont have one cause your legal ALL the time then I DONT have a problem,but thing is you cant say that You JUST CANT

And to set the matter straight I am quite biased as i have been personally affected by a out of hours driver on more than 1 occasion

My God son was run over by a trucker,and Killed,he was over on his hours,,and to quote him in court"Just trying to get home to his family"

I have been backed into by 2 drivers in my career that were Out Of Hours,both times rendering my truck unfit to drive until repairs made...
Both Instances drivers were cited(hell one had a suspension on his license),both were woefully over on available hours,#1: 4 hours over his drivetime and 2 hrs past his 14(think about that next time someone is backing into the next spot beside you)
#2 Pulled out and took 1/2 my hood with him,he had taken a lil 2 hr nappy,only prob was he logged it as a 10 break(sidenote:we were on IND Turnpike,when Investigating Officer looked at his toll ticket he figured it out) placed him OOS and he sat there beside me while my ride was being towed away

And as for your advice,I look into the mirror EVERYDAY,and I see a person that cares about what he does to make sure the job is done Right(Even long before my company was put on ELOGS),you might want to look at what I actually said in last post,it refers to the constant daily swings some posters take to discredit the OP"s question

Now i will meet you half way and assert that your claim that ELOGs wont make the roads safer(In actual movement ,,NO) but it will make each and every driver COMPLIANT and thats an absolute

 

The OOIDA says the FMCSA, large motor carriers and Department of Transportation enforcement officials are ignoring a recent court ruling that struck down the so-called "bad actors" electronic EOBR rule. OOIDA claims the regulation vacated by the court didn't just mandate the use of EOBRS on carriers with questionable safety records. It also set specifications for the units, allowed for voluntary use of EOBR's and gave EOBR-using carriers a free pass on some of the supporting documents regulations.

"I am writing to request that the Office of Chief Counsel take immediate action to bring FMCSA and its Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program partners as well as certain motor carriers into compliance with the state of the law after the Seventh Circuit vacated the EOBR-I-rule making, "OOIDA attorney Paul D. Cullen Sr. wrote in a letter to FMCSA Chief Counsel Alais L.M. Griffin. The letter said that the current regulation authorizing motor carriers to require drivers to use EOBRS for Hours of Service enforcement was among the provisions vacated when the court threw out EOBR-I, saying the regulation as written did not protect drivers from harrasment by carries. "There is no longer any provision in the rules for the adoption of a device called an (EOBR,) either under an agency mandate or voluntarily," Cullen wrote. "under no circustance should FMCSA permit or facilitate the deployment of a device to be used as an HOS enforcement that the court declared was non-compliant with a federal statute." Motor Carriers can now only use devices that were legal under the regulations that were in effect prior to June 2010 when EOBR-I became effective and that carriers must resume maintaining all supporting documents. Now, because the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals has vacated that rule, OOIDA contends that 395.16 should no longer be in effect. "We would say that FMCSA could not accept recordings from the devices even if it was voluntary because FMCSA cant basically allow a device that could be used to harrass the vehicle operator," "Right now, because 395.16 is gone, where is the legal authority to permit the us of an EOBR for HOS compliance? It dosen't exist."

 

I can assure you I am not trying to get into a pissing match. I just think for some reason a few on here think because they feel a certain way about truckin then everyone else should feel the same way. Thats not how it is.

 

I have had state troopers and other law enforcement people who told me about some accidents where a person was likely saved due to NOT having a seat belt. I think the main reason lives have been saved while wearing a seat belt was to keep them inside the car. Others have been thrown clear. It may be a good idea, but should NEVER be regulated by the government.

 

Another reason this EOBR crap is being fought is The EOBR regulation would allow FMCSA to engage in widespread warrantless GPS surveillance of millions of American citizens with the agency monitoring the movements of 4 million drivers operating for 500,000 motor carriers and using 3.6 million vehicles, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The specter of such surveillance is both disturbingly practical and demonstrably imminent.

 

Just another little key note. 96% of all drivers feel drowsy driving is unacceptable but yet nearly 32% have admitted driving while they were so tired that they had difficulty keeping their eyes open within the last month.... Not only truckers this is everybody whether 18 wheelers or 4 wheelers.