Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Purely entertainment purposes, at this point.

 

Along with that are the facts that get left out of the crash stats that actually get reported . . . MAJORITY of the crashes are the fault of the driver of the 4-wheeler, not the big truck driver. That's hidden in the actual report that is buried on FMCSA's website. You actually have to hunt for it, but there are some pretty interesting facts in there that point to the 4-wheelers being the biggest problem on the road.

 

Here I sit with a little time on my hands and nothing better to do.

 

Hay DA, its not about the HOS its about putting EBOR's in trucks that are not needed!
And just how is enhanced enforcement gonna take place?
So far this year I have only been ask to show my paper log 2 times. With an EBOR do you think I would have to show it more?
Get a grip bubbles, people are gonna die on the highways no matter what laws are passed.

Really?!?! I have my own insurance so why cant I drive without a seatbelt? I cant wait to read your rules of the road reply!

 

Only appears counter when you start with a flawed premise. While quaint your reasoning is quite flawed. Ayn Rand spoke of men possessing the labor they produced and should be free to exercise that.

What was not addressed and requires a functioning brain to grasp is you and I choose to rely on others to run our respective business' by placing them on public roads. If you would pay attention government has a proper role. Part of that is roads, military, police, fire....... those services would be best if individualized but simply implausible.

Getting the government out of education, breeding control, drug use, food programs, retirement, product safety, labor relations, genetic research, ho.e onwership, baseball, wrestling, steroid use, oral sex, what young bowls of mush paint their bodies like, or any of the thousands of issues elected officials have wasted tike on in the past two decades are addressed if one practices the fundementals of objectivism.

 

Who is arguing with that? Of course government has a role. None of us are talking about wide open lawless trucking as being what they need to let us have. What would be great is if there was some common sense somewhere in the equation. There is none. What works good in your perfect cookie cutter job, eobr's, does not work good for everyone else. And it's not because everyone else just wants to break rules. Trucking is such a dynamic industry. There are some areas where it will never work, livestock comes to mind. It's not an end all be all saftey panacea either. That quaint little notion has thoroughly been discredited many times. I know it's difficult but at least try to let some of these ideas sink into that closed mind and acknowledge them.

 

We already have Government enforcement of HOS.

Without showing how eobr's will increase safety it is an undue burden on an already ever-increasingly safer industry. Government needs to play a LIMITED role when trends are headed in the proper direction.

Carriers are free to install all the eobr type devices they want. --And many do! So if in fact this stuff does happen to improve safety then "individualized" safety advancements are absolutely plausible.

 

I seem to remember at one time the feds incorporated pickup trucks, vans, etc., into the same statistics as 18 wheelers when they compiled the numbers. Since all are considered trucks they were all put in the same group. At the time there was no distinction between 18 wheelers and 4 wheeler trucks. If that is true then it would certainly alter the dynamics of the equation.

 

And you talk about me drinking Koolaide,,OMG son,so seeing that you threw your hat into this Swaray,,lets separate fact from fiction,,OKAY

CSA 2010-- Rates and establishes standards that each SAME SIZE carrier is compared to and graded to,NOT big to small,NOT O/O to MEGA carrier,your are scored against the same size operation that you are

You say get on with our lives and ENFORCE the laws we have,,Well son that is what CSA2010 is all about,,,try reading some companies grades(they are all public),,,CSA is doing EXACTLY what you are preaching,so whats your beef???

:OH yeah wait a second your gonna say ELOGS/EOBRs,well that is a mere side act to CSA2010(and yes BTW I am on them,not by my doing but by my company and its score)actually a by product of a bad score,,,but Ill meet you half way in the debate or Paper vs Electronic,,,You show me how you can positively prove that what you put down on paper is 100% true and accurate then you can be the same as a EOBR

And your assertion that drivers still drive tired with ELOGS,,,well
DUH! no argument there,and same can be said for Paper,difference is Electronic is about compliance,you have to comply with the rules,,like YOU say We should be Enforcing the ones we have EOBR's do that,exactly what YOU want

like these fine people:http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/news...mpany-Declared-Imminent-Hazard-to-Public.aspx

Oh here is their scores:http://ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/carrier.aspx?enc=MnUFdWQvqwJK/0m+TW+zd4/q6+i3cudymkhzuRygZVk=

Now was FMCSA right to put them out of business???
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ECU, you have it backward. I don't have to prove what I wrote down is right. The inspecting officer has to prove it wrong. Huge difference.

And, if that's really you in your avatar, you might want to lighten up on the condescending "son" usage. You are younger than 75% of forum members.