Steer tires balding, DOT issues, How to go OOS with carrier

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Easygoin, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. Easygoin

    Easygoin Bobtail Member

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    I have a right steer tire that is balding, of the 4 tread grooves the inner and outer are almost gone and the 2 inner are at 4/32 or less. The left steer is showing the same pattern but about 50% less wear than the right. I pointed out that the left shock is frozen and probably the culprit.
    Questions:
    How many tread grooves have to be out or the 4/32 range to be bad? (I have read that only one has to be)
    What fines or penalities would the DOT impose?
    4 weeks newbie with small local carrier after 4 years OTR, love the routes and the hometime. What power do I have to shut the truck down till the tire is replaced ?

    Need help by Monday, carrier is aware and notified of the tires and shock and still a load to go Monday. I work in alot of snow and not real excited about waiting to get resolved. Ty
     
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  3. lonewolf4ad

    lonewolf4ad Road Train Member

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    Advise the company the rig doesn't move until the issues are fixed. If still having an issue then 5 years experience is enough to find a better company.
     
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  4. the gambler

    the gambler Medium Load Member

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    Not to sound like an A-hole but it's simple don't drive it if you don't feel safe.
     
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  5. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

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    No kidding- it's going to be the same old story- sadly the MC isn't listening to you, this is "your responsibility". When it's out of service it'll be "your fault". As soon as you remind them that you told someone they will want to know who you talked to and on what dates. If you can remember them, they will deny it-but you will pay the fines.

    If a driver suspects a tire is out of spec and won't pass scrutiny it usually is. Time to do those repairs NOW.
     
  6. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    If you refuse to drive the truck, will you be fired? I'd say probably, having a wee bit of experience with small outfits.

    You're best bet is to take the truck...straight to a scale house or CMV enforcement officer. Call'em if you have to. Explain the issues, show proof of communication between you and the company if possible, and let the LEO's deal with the company appropriately. You'll be protected by whistleblower laws, and the inspection will show as a random check, if the LEO's do the paperwork right.
     
  7. lonewolf4ad

    lonewolf4ad Road Train Member

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    Even with the random, it is a way to accumulate CSA score points.
     
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  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    WHY would you do something so dumb?

    The points for the defect will be on the DRIVERS CSA.
     
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  9. Easygoin

    Easygoin Bobtail Member

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    I have put alot of thought towards this and almost pulled over next to another Driver that had been. The CSA points really dont bother me as long as the issues get resolved.
     
  10. lonewolf4ad

    lonewolf4ad Road Train Member

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    So let's get this straight, you would rather accumulate CSA points, get a mark on your safety record from the company (which they can later put on your DAC if you quit or get terminated), and possibly put other drivers at danger by driving with faulty equipment? Have fun with a company that will screw you over and not fix things.
     
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  11. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    What would be worse...CSA points? Or a blown steer tire and the possible accident, followed by CSA points and never being able to drive again?

    I do apologize. I did breifly forget about the ongoing nightmare that is CSA. Back in the day drivers and CMV enforcement officers could and would occassionally work together to keep unsafe trucks off the road, and your truck definitely qualifies.

    Bad steers are nothing to mess with. If you've never experienced a blown steer (and I admit, I never have), you don't know how you will react. A bad reaction could potentially lead to you hitting another vehicle, or rolling your own. Both WILL be considered preventable, and we all know what a preventable accident does to your driving career. Especially a roll-over, or a fatality.

    If it's financially possible, walk away. An outfit that is willing to run bald steers is more than willing to risk YOUR life in other ways. If not, and I certainly understand it may not be, you have to find other ways to protect yourself and the rest of us knuckleheads out there. Personally, I'd be willing to take some CSA points to prevent a possible horrible event down the road. But then, I gave up driving. Truck driving today ain't what it used to be, that's for sure!
     
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