Just some of the stupid things I see

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dieselbear, Jan 31, 2010.

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  1. rodzilla

    rodzilla Light Load Member

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    I ran with a guy once that would do exactly that if yes wasn't legal on his log. He'd just say he lost it. Turns out, in Az, the fine is a lot more for falsification than for not having one. Just q little loophole you truckstop lawyers and constitutional scholars might wanna use.
     
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  3. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    What would happen if you didn't call the company? or let the carrier decide? I assume your HazMat certified, many DOT and Troopers are not... What if no accident or wreck happened?

    All of the above happened in the scenerio I'm talking about.

    Trooper was not HazMat certified... Only Trooper on the scene.

    Sheriff's deputies were not certified either(why woould they be) they were the only other LEO's on the scene.

    Had the HazMat truck towed, and no the tow truck driver also didn't have the CDL Hazmat endorsement. (Trooper didn't bother to check)

    Towed truck and trailer to a county lot, in town, and parked.... about 20ft from a house and 50ft from a trailer park entrance.

    Needless to say, the bonding company and carrier freaked.

    Requested the trooper be interviewed and I heard he lost his job.

    Guess not all LEOs are the sharpest knifes in the drawer.
     
  4. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    Pretrip Insp along with prelogging the trip, is that a problem?:biggrin_2559::biggrin_25523: That way you'll know if you preplanned out the trip right.LMAO
     
  5. Big Don

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    You are right about that. Just like all truck drivers are not. Look, we are all people, and people are different. Sure, there are some LEOs that should not be on the job. MOST departments do what they can to weed these guys out in the prehire process, but still a few of them slip through.

    I just get such a kick out of all the posts from curbside lawyers and others that THINK they know everything there is to know. I guess, my question here is, if you know so much, why are you still driving rather than retired and counting your money?

    And for those that think they can just ignore the order of a LEO, I will only sight one state, California.

    California Vehicle Code Section 2800

    (a) It is unlawful to willfully fail or refuse to comply with
    a lawful order, signal, or direction of a peace officer, as defined
    in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of
    the Penal Code, when that peace officer is in uniform and is
    performing duties pursuant to any of the provisions of this code, or
    to refuse to submit to a lawful inspection pursuant to this code.

    So go ahead, and do whatever you want. Just be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.
     
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  6. Brickman

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    They come from all walks of life and all IQ levels.
    Just like truck drivers.




    There is a former WY HP trooper that is cooling his heals in the big house for a lot of years for double attempted murder.
    While on official duty no less. He definitely was tiptoeing in the shallow end of the gene pool!!
     
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    I would think that any reputable tow company would require their drivers to be HM certified because of a situation like this.





    One thing that is a real head scratcher to me and is a serious double standard if you ask me is that when a rig is put OOS for bad tires, brakes or other equipment safety violations.
    Its just fine to call a tow company and tow a rig in to a shop but to drive it to the shop is a public safety violation of the highest order. If its unsafe to drive because of bad brakes or tires I'm pretty #### sure its unsafe to be towed too.
    Road service should be called.
     
  8. kajidono

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    The tow truck will have brakes and it's not like they hook into the braking systems of whatever they're towing. Most of the time we had to run bolts into the brake cans to manually unlock them or we couldn't move it at all. Tires would be another thing.

    I never saw a tow company that required hazmat while I was in the business.
     
  9. Brickman

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    You proved my point. A trailer's brakes are OOS. How is hooking a tow truck miraculously make the vehicle safer?
    It doesn't.


    Not having HM endorsement would make the tow an illegal move of a HM transporting vehicle.
    Stupid double standard allowed by the politicians.
    Tow truck drivers are not always accident free. All it will take to change that is one day there will be a major HM spill thanks to the unlicensed tow driver. There will be a major law suit and millions of dollars will be paid out.

    I'm surprised that tow company's insurance companies haven't put a stop to unlicensed tow truck drivers doing a HM tow. They are all about liability and reducing risk any where they can.
     
  10. kajidono

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    I dunno as I never towed HM. I know that tow trucks are classed as full on emergency vehicles in my state so they may get around it that way.

    Basically, they're not going to mess with tow trucks. They know what will happen if they do cause it's happened before. They bother us, they get nothing towed. By anyone. We all know each other.
     
  11. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Well, I have no idea of what state you are in, but in the states that I am familiar with, the tow truck companies have to be licensed, their driver's have to have the appropriate license for what they are towing, and they are regularly checked by the highway patrol.

    As far as LE not being able to get a tow truck, you can't be serious. For every approved tow truck company, there are several more that are chomping at the bit trying to get approved. Those contracts are a real money maker for towing companies, and any reputable towing company is going to do everything they can to maintain good relations with law enforcement. They have too many brains to bite the hand that feeds them so well. . .:biggrin_25513:
     
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