In 2009, I had to incorporate. Why? Because lawsuits had been filed against others in the industry by pathetic excuses for I/C's who screwed up and rather than taking responsibility for their screw-up, they chose to sue the carrier claiming to be misclassified as an I/C when they were really an employee.
In response to those lawsuits, the carrier I had my truck leased on with decided to cover their rear and no longer would deal with "sole proprietors". If you want to lease on, you've got to incorporate...and your corporation can then lease it's fleet of however many trucks it owns on to run under the carrier's authority.
Hasn't really changed my operation, other than it cost me $500 to set up the LLC and $250/year to keep it active. That's money I'd much rather keep in my pocket.
So yeah, this specific lawsuit is against Swift...but its ramifications will stretch industry wide, because the outcome of the case sets a legal precedent. Suppose one day the courts rule that even O/O's running under a carrier's authority are actually employees of the carrier? Instead of just having to incorporate, we'd all have to get our own authority and basically rent trailers and broker loads through the carrier we are now leased to.....or sell our trucks because it wouldn't be profitable to run them under someone else's authority if we were classified as employees.
Neither of those is acceptable.
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I would be more inclined to believe that these former lease operators had been taken advantage of had they not mentioned in their complaint that they were seeking employee status and wanted to recover any taxes or have Swift pay their taxes. Having said that, I still think that these people could not make it and now want to blame the carrier.otherhalftw and Injun Thank this. -
I am not "locked" into any one carrier, I can go wherever I please and take my truck and trailer with me if I'm not making money with a carrier.
To enter into any contract without reading and understanding what's in it is to say the least....Foolish!
An O/O has autonomy....A L/O has none.
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On my first lease...this is how IEL determined if I could be successful...by my own history with what I was doing...and they made it a strong point that "xxx" miles were required on a regular average basis for me to succeed. However, on the second lease, this counseling was not done for me...maybe because I was expected to know from the previous lease.
These are two points that aren't indicated in any brief or statements regarding this suit. As Injun stated....I'm done with this till the court renders a decision. -
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Good luck with that....
Swift will cancel the whole program before they allow that. The only reason that they started the L/O program in the first place was to get someone else to pay for the truck and the fuel while letting them believe that they were an independent when they are in fact...Just company drivers, Paying for a company truck.otherhalftw Thanks this. -
I doubt seriously that Swift would cancel the whole program, they make too much profit from the L/O's they do have to give it up. Oh, and my comment was based on what the IRS said. -
Swift may have given these lease operators the information. It may be that the lease operators chose to ignore the facts because they saw dollar signs in their eyes. In any case, it is up to the lease operator to ask the right questions. If they don't know the questions, then they don't need to be doing one of these leases. Some of the first questions that I would ask is how I would be compensated, break even point and all costs associated with doing the lease? I would expect that if Swift went over the numbers with you that they would have done the same to others. Most large companies have a cookie cutter approach to doing things. They do the same thing with everyone. I am sure there is much that we don't know about the lawsuit. The facts will come out in the court proceedings.otherhalftw Thanks this.
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