[Wide Load] when cargo inside flatbed dimensions?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Robert Gift, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Dear Mr. Gift, Wide mty. trls. sometimes do need to have flashing amber lights.
    Alot depends on the state rules for moving oversize and or heavy over weight lds.
    We have no uniformity from state to state. Most states will require the same rules.
    But some states have their own little rules
    Ia. will have on their permit rules even if heavy not wide you have to have your amber lights going..
    It might have just been a driver being lazy and taking off the signs and turning off his lights.
    Like other poster stated, if you had a pic. it might help with your complaint/ question.
     
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  3. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    Anything that is more than 102" wide is considered over-sized, even if it is an empty trailer. Rules vary somewhat from state to state, but if an over-sized load requires flashing lights, then a wide empty trailer will probably be required to have the lights.
     
  4. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Thought you would like that smoothshifter.:biggrin_2558:
    Yep like I posted before. My trl is 9' wide and I have to run signs and some states even my strobes just to move it mty.
     
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  5. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    I can understand that may ruffle a few feathers, after all, no one likes to be the recipient of talk with a safety person because someone calls in. We had an 800 number on our trailers at one of my gigs, and people would abuse it.

    However, in this case, I'm sure that whoever fielded the call would have explained why the lights and sign needed to be there, if they needed to be there. It's not like he is tattling for someone tailgating and it's not going to fall on the driver, unless of course, the lights were unnecessary.

    I've read enough of Robert's posts to know that he words things a little differently at times. The thing I always try and remind folks it that this is a section of TTR that gives us an opportunity to interact with folks who are curious as to our industry.

    It's an opportunity to share with the general public, not a boxing ring.

    Yes, guys and girls, there are a lot of idiotic 4-wheelers that make your day unpleasant. Clueless to that pallet of freight you just flopped over because they cut you off while yakking on the cell phone. I get that.

    All I ask is that you use this section of TTR to do something productive towards educating the people coming here looking for answers. You might save a phone call someday. :yes2557:

    Your first post was cool, but thanks for the follow up. I didn't know about the 9' trailers and the sign requirement.
     
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  6. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Yep most states I can get away with out the signs, but due to the sue happy system we now have in the U.S. I run them all the time. C.Y.A to speak
    Some states due to my length mty and the jeep stacked on the trl. I even need a rear pilot car.. This is at 105' Not all but some.
     
  7. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    Yea you've got to love that. Most booster are such a pain to breakdown especially on west coast legal trailers that it's much easier to just pay the pilot car. I've had my jeep and booster stacked and been told that I couldn't do that as I was overgross with a multi piece load (my empty weight is 88,900) but it was okay if I unstacked my jeep and had it on the ground.

    As far as Mr. Gift goes perhaps if he didn't come on here with the attitude that he was better than all truck drivers with every one of his posts he wouldn't get snarky answers. That's how I read his posts and I think many others do as well.

    In Colorado in order to run at night with anything over 102 inches wide lights, signs, and flags are required and they are just as annoying to the guy in the cab as they are to the rest of the traffic. It's a pretty hefty fine to not be running them and no clearance lights are nit enough.
     
  8. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Yep, Ar. will nail you in a heart beat for jeep and stinger stacked if over 80.
    I got hammered one day for having a deck insert in a factory rack. I had a ld. on the deck and the deck in it's rack. 2ooo.oo fine and had to have a tow truck come and get the insert.

    I saw a so called expr. H.H. with a brand new trl. get nailed at the east bound Hope scales. Was all stacked up.Just picked the trl. up in Houston and was going somewhere east.
    When I came through he was around back with a wrecker unstacking him.
    I called the dealer and told him his brand new trl. he sold was sitting behind the scales..
    Driver was mad. I can do this out west. he said
    Yep, but you're in Ar. now...
     
  9. Robert Gift

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    Do these lights have a day and night setting?
    Our ambulance strobe lights have a dimmer "Night" setting.

    Regular flashing incandescent yellow lights would have been more than sufficient.
    These were blinding - appearing to be instant flashing STROBE lights.
    But no one could tell because the blinding light left an after-image in our eyes.

    If it was a wider trailer, its regular clearance lights were perfectly adequate.
    Because we were blinded, no one could see a number to call.
    Otherwise I would have called.
     
  10. Kansas

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    Here ya go, research these magical little beast. Become the resident expert http://www.awdirect.com/truck-lighting/
     
  11. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    As has already been stated over and over you may think that the clearance lights are adequate but the STATE doesn't so if you have a problem with flashing lights take it up with the STATE. All oversize loads are required to run lights at night in Colorado they issue major fines if you don't run them. They don't usually have dimmer settings on them as they are not controlled from the cab but back on the trailer. I would say more but I'm done with this one.
     
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