MO oversize during bad road conditions

But with CSA 2010, not a wise thought to tempt.

 

I believe in giving as much decision making power to the person behind the steering wheel. If my driver indicates that road conditions are good enough to travel, and it is unlikely they will be stopped, I will likely give them the green light to use their discretion. If they choose to follow the letter of the law and shut down, I am okay with that. They are professionals, and they are the ones that are experiencing the road conditions. They are in a much better position to determine when they need to shut down.

My issue is with the laws themselves. It gives an individual officer a huge amount of discretion.

 

Your last line is quite the issue and totally agreed.

 

kansas pulled my permit cause i was driving in the rain,escorted me to the nearest truck stop and told me to have a nice day

 

They told me yesterday to head to the 215 truck stop. Of which I did, then took the dog out, used the bathroom, and left.
The official Ks book states "moderate to heavy rain" for inclement weather. But seeing as they said no ticket etc, I didnt bother arguing with the idiot, especially as it was under 15 miles to the Mo line on 435
FYI, I print my permits via email, so takes a whole 5 minutes to print another in case I got one pulled, which has never happened.......So far.

Martin

 

Most laws are like that, I took a class on criminal law in college. Any time you are reading a regulation a lot of it is open for interpretation. This is kind of the basis for the legal system. Someone thinks you're doing something wrong (law enforcement) and you get issued a citation/and or arrested. You disagree so you fight it in a court of law. Your lawyer argues against someone else's lawyer and a judge gives his opinion. The whole system is broken, yet not broken at any given time. Typically it's easier to understand the individuals states interpretations of the regulations than it is to fight case. I'm more of a letter of the law guy and the "spirit" of the law drives me crazy (and I literally mean crazy).

 

Nebraska and Kansas are the most finicky about moving in wind and rain...

Myself, I roll on if I can see the required distance stated on the permits...if they shut me down at the scale (has not happened to me...so far)...so be it.

 

To date...I have only seen that 200' requirement listed on Idaho permits.

 

I'm no help on the hay hauling...at least not on a truck...I have handled my share of bales on the farm though.

I do know hay often has its own "sub-set" of rules...noticed it in the provision sheets of a few states.