Gasoline Tanker

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by GasHauler, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    Store owners / managers are notoriously disrespectful of drivers' time.

    I have one customer who likes to order a partial load for tomorrow, but he refuses to tell the jobber what time he will be able to accept delivery, claiming that he will call them later.

    Then he starts calling me (the dispatcher) about 2 hours before his delivery appointment, asking where his load is. I let the jobber know that I did NOT appreciate her giving our number to the customer.
     
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  3. Marc Letourneau

    Marc Letourneau Light Load Member

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    My favorite is... Hey can you just splash the super with regular just to get me through today.. Yeah right, Get the hell out of here.
     
  4. ramkatral

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    If that's what the customer wanted, that's what we were to do. It's not MY tank. It's his. If he wants to top off 93 with a few hundred gallons of 87, that's HIS problem. At least, that was my company's stance on it.

    My personal favorite was: We had a driver drop premium into a kero tank. Easy mistake at this store. He was new, the premium was often hidden under a parked car, and the kero lid's shade of brown was awfully close to red at night. Anyway, I had to pump it out. Two days later, dispatcher tells me they got a buyer for a contaminated load. So, I took it up to this rinky little store up the road where they proceeded to have me drop the approx 200 gal kero/ 1000 gal prem straight into his premium tank. Needless to say, I've filled in my friends and family of certain stores to never ever buy gas from.

    Another favorite of mine is when you're dropping, you always have someone mention the "Can you wait until I fill up before you start dropping that? I don't want all that dirt stirred up and in my tank." myth.
     
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  5. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Your company is wrong. They can get nail for selling product to the dealing that is below spec's. It happens and the fines are tough. Now if you were to go the other way and drop 93 into the 87 there's nothing wrong with that except bad business. But you do not ever want to go higher with a lower product.

    We had a dealer complain to the local sales rep. and the company went out and watched these drivers. They were stopping the flow as soon as they saw bubbles in the sight glass and were cross dumping to help with there load. The dealer claimed and won the complaint that he was losing hundreds of dollars every year because the truck was not unloading all of the product. It does add up when you shut the valve too early. There's enough product left in the tank not to trip your scully lights and still enough room to load your next product. The company fired over 6 drivers and made it clear that every driver was to make sure all the product unloaded at the station. For awhile they had the trucks stop in the yard and had the driver go up and stick the tank and sometimes the terminal supervisor was there to make sure. This dealer really caused some problems plus he went on to help form the divorcement law in the state of NV.

    So as a driver if you know you are dumping a lower grade of gasoline into a higher grade tank you are just as guilty as the station or company. The state can fine you too plus if they fire you it will be hard to get hired on by other companies if you have a reputation for not following the rules and regulations.It's CYA.
     
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  6. Elvenhome21

    Elvenhome21 Heavy Load Member

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    how on earth does a tanker driver figure out how to do this, much less reliably not flip it. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNmy05svqE&feature=related[/ame]
     
  7. Marc Letourneau

    Marc Letourneau Light Load Member

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    Big time.. If you got caught doing that around here it wouldn't be good.. You probably would never be able to work for any companies that haul gas.
     
  8. ramkatral

    ramkatral Heavy Load Member

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    It's kind of a moot point that this stage as I don't haul gas anymore, nor do I really care to again. I'm content hauling hazardous wastes.




    :biggrin_2556:
     
  9. cktrans

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    Hi gashauler
    we do reefers and dump trucks out of socal, im thinking abt gettin into fuel tankers and i dont knw anything abt this biz, so any insight wud be great help, i have alot of
    questions regarding it like if i shud by my own tractor and the tank trailers and thn contract wit companies? is tht the way to do it or how cud it be done
    i wud appreciate ur help
    thanks
    gill
     
  10. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I believe the best for you is to get out and go see them. You're in an area that has hudreds of tanks line that run from San Diego up pass bakeyourass. You could start over at South Gate and see a few carriers there. Those companies like to set up shop around the tank farms and ARCO at Vinvale has the largest and fastest rack in the west. Just get to talking with them and ask who will give you a shot. I know COX picked up a few out of state ARCO's so talk with them. I hear they are not so bad.

    As far as O/O I just don't see that many and it could be because of the 2 million dollar bond they must post before they even pull up to load.

    The way it works with another company hauling our loads once it's in their trailer it's there product as far as resposibility goes. They just can not decide on their own to do drop at another branded station unless the have all the permission to do so. They still must go to the station we hired them for but if they have a spill or an accident it's all on them. Maybe it's becoming a little clearer to new guys why these big companies hire out their loads. It's like lets find the fish and save money too. But, sooner or later a smart book guy is going to come along and figure out with company drivers there were less spills,less outages, and less comtains. Then they had people asking were are those nice shinny trucks that came in here? It goes in circles.

    When you go to the loading racks you will need training and be signed off in the training. It will all be explained to you and it won't hurt to take some personal notes. It usually takes 3 days with a quified loader right there with you. I don't know where you'll be loading but if you going to load the truck and trailer at the same time you have to be sharpe and on point. I don't even know if you're going to drive a truck and trailer. To me it's just fun to feel the ground shake and load right at a little over 8 minutes.
     
  11. shredfit1

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    It's a $30,000 fine if caught dumping 87 oxy into a premium tank in MN, Enforced by MN Dept. of Weights an Measures. They do watch you from time to time, I've even been asked to see my bills after a drop. I didn't at first then, he showed me the badge and told me why...

    Have I been asked to do this? Yup... Will I, nope. We are under strick orders to call the boss, when asked to do something like this to he can tell them no freaken way.
     
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