HOS what's the point?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by shredfit1, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    I would love to pull over and nap, but it cannot happen under current HOS rules... I need to push on, to stay legal matching up my BOL recorded load times etc. Again, that is to say... I would NEVER drive so fatigued that I would be falling asleep at the wheel. Oh, I suppose YOU have never driven tired... If your a trucker and never driven tired, you sir, are a flat out liar.

    And my point is, that drug tests catch them. Certainly not all drug tests are foolproof, there can and are false positives. However, for the most part, drug tests are pretty good. Again, I have no problem using current biometric technology to drug test prior to starting and individuals assigned truck. It certainly could be done with current technology. As far as being Unconstitutional, it certainly hasn't stopped them before, why should it now?

    I've seen tables posted that conclude driver accident fatalities are down due to better equipment and equipment maintenance programs. Again, NOTHING that definitely suggests that reduced accident fatalities are a result of HOS rules... If there is such data, please please post it. Let's see your claimed fact.

    So you could look at an ER doctor when unconscious, taken to the ER in an emergency... To determine if they are 'inside there faculties' to treat you. This IS my point.

    Lasty, please explain why the roads are not bloody during MN and IA harvest season, when a plethora of drivers (fuel, propane, anhydrous) drivers are running HOS exempt by governor decree... Why is it?
     
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  3. Meltom

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    We switched our company to eLogs. While most every driver was against the change many have liked it, and all have stated they've never had more rest. So it would seem to me that following the HOS does fight fatigue. Granted my sample size is only 400 drivers.
     
  4. shredfit1

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    This would be interesting, they certainly could look at accident data from harvest HOS exempt drivers vs a similar pool of non-exempt drivers. Just by living in an area where the yearly HOS exemptions do occur, I certainly haven't seen or heard of accidents all over the place as a result of the exemptions. However, a formal study would certainly be interesting.
     
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  5. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    I bet they all say they are more productive as well.
     
  6. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Almost no change in miles per driver per week, however our log falsifications have dropped significantly.
     
  7. Eagle_Eye

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    EOBR's can easiley be beat.
     
  8. Eagle_Eye

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    I couldn't agree more. I am on a dedicated run, the other day I was so tired I had to stop and take a 20 min nap. 20 min made it where I could not complete the run. HOS are a joke. I somedays can go 15 hours and never miss a beat others after 7 or so I am dog tired.
     
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  9. shredfit1

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    Then, somehow they are getting more rest... prior to the change, when they somehow didn't get more rest but didn't drive more or get more work done.

    Somehow, this doesn't make sense.

    Perhaps the change in the use of EOBR's just changed driver error in filling out paper logs. (ie drivers not keeping the log current... forgetting to flag a fuel stop etc...) So the drivers were, in compience and the falsifications were due to driver error in filling out paper logs.

    No argument here, EOBR's can/could certainly help a company that hires a plethora of nitwit drivers.
     
  10. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Yup, I hear you... I remember the summer of Chicago runs that I used to do... Let me tell you 11 hrs driving in and around Chicago Metro... is WAY different than 11 hours driving in rural MN or IA... yet the rules say they are the same. It's a huge joke
     
  11. Working Class Patriot

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    Huh?


    Typical run for me:
    0600-0615-PTI
    0615-0700-Run to shipper
    0700-0900-Pick-up
    0900-1500-Check the load..tires...etc..Put dinner in crockpot....
    1500-1800-Post trip...
    1800- "10" off....Got in anywhere from 350-450 miles...

    Now if I'm already loaded....The day is shorter....I average 600 miles a day loaded....


    'bedders don't have it easy either....Tarping..Strapping..Chaining down a load...And we still have to get in the miles....

    Everybody else just "Bumps and Dumps".....:biggrin_25522:
     
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