ECOTAZ ECO Fuelsystems Fuel Enhancers - Does it work?

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  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    I challenge the manufacturer to provide a device to someone willing to dyno test it on their truck. If the numbers do not show that it improves fuel economy, then the manufacturer pays for the dyno tests.

    I'm thinking that the challenge will be refused. And that will be telling.

    What say you, ECOTAZ?
     
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  3. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    It really would not matter as April this year is much different than April last year. I know you are probably leaning on the winter to summer fuel blends, but the guy is showing his avg fuel mileage in front of the pump to the hundredths.

    Not defending the product nor have tried it, stated earlier in this thread that I am skeptical of it.
     
  4. dairyman

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    Not looking too good so far though,is it Dice1:biggrin_25512:. Thanks for your detailed pics at the pump,those numbers are gona be hard to argue with. Looks like i'll be having ''humble pie'' for supper:biggrin_2559: . Have you noticed any performance increase at all?
     
  5. skateboardman

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    it seems as if dice1 numbers are pretty well consistent no matter the month.

    and in fact, test right now would give an advantage to the ecotaz unit, if the mileage doesnt increase now with warmer weather is here, it apparently wont increase.

    my mileage (with an apu varied very little from winter to now spring) is pretty well consistent year round. i may have a round of two that gets lower with very strong winds etc. but over the course of figuring an entire month or by the quarter, it varies very little.
     
  6. windsmith

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    While Dice1's numbers seem to show no improvement, it's hard to account for all of the variables. The only true test would be on a dynamometer with a consistent load on the SAME truck with the SAME tank of fuel over the SAME amount of time, and fuel consumption compared between runs at the SAME POWER OUTPUT and adjusted for charge air temp, ambient temp, coolant temp, fuel temp and barometric pressure (or boost pressure).

    But that won't happen, because the manufacturer of the product won't let ECOTAZ allow the test, since they know that the product does not work.

    Is Mythbusters still being produced? This might be a good candidate for them to test - if they can figure out how to blow something up in the process :D
     
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  7. MNdriver

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    um, I pretty much stated that a couple of pages back calling out the white papers on this....


    And they pretty much ignored responding to it.
     
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  8. windsmith

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    Yup, I asked for it around post #200, and got glossed over... P. T. Barnum never goes out of style.
     
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  9. ECOTAZ

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    It is truly Hilarious as to how all of the sudden you have all the NaySayers jumping on Dices band wagon saying "See I told you it does not work" Everyone now forgot of the 30 or more that tested and purchased units and tested in their own specialized driving and proved it worked.
    How many of yoiu Nay Sayers drive at 57mpg?
    How many of you are getting 9+ mpg per gallon?
    How many of you have all the Mods that Dice has?
    Me personally I wished I had 10 drivers that are all getting over 9+ miles and test on 10 trucks as we did at the beggining of this forum.
    We all know by Dices previous posts how negative and how he bashed our produt. Honestly I told our Distributor Hans of BSI Solutions to hold Dices money because he would be asking for his refund. He will prove his point to promote himself and all the mods he continuously promotes.
    The statement that you can't argue with the pictures that Dice has showing his gallons purchased and amount paid along with his miles driven shown on it is good but not true.
    As I have mentioned before anyone who knows the numbers and the testing procedures can actually show what ever numbers you want to prove anything you want.
    Let me just give you a couple of examples!
    1. You fill up your truck with fuel. You take a picture of the page with the miles and the fuel pump starting a test.
    2. you make your run.
    3. You then see how many miles you drove. For example only lets say 700 miles.
    4. you want to show a 9.02 mpg. You take 700 and divide that by 9.02
    5. Gallons needed is 77.6
    6. You fill up your tank with 77.6 gallons of diesel, fillout the form showing the picture of the pump with the gallons purchased and the miles driven and 9.02 mpg.
    7. Now all the readers believe this to be true and blow of the other 30 plus drivers that proved to themselve that ECO-Systems worked for them.

    When Dice first was going to test many months ago I asked him if we could download the info from the ECM to see his before and after mileage, idle times, and speeds, and that is when he got all tore-up and defensive.
    Our distributor then offered to test his truck by simply hooka computor to his ECM and running a before test and an after install test.
    This computer only shows your mpg at what ever speed you want. As for Dices truck at 57 mph before and after install to give you your mpg.
    He would not allow us to do it.
    That was where red flags came up for me.
    the latest red flag is his showing of 9.01 on a wild run with heavier loads and in the Mountains with a strong head wind and he still got over 9 mpg. while this is what he normally gets running his dedicated runs in good flat conditions.
    All I can say is that this is good reading for the Nay-Sayers. It will make your day.
    Now for any driver out there that is only in the 4.5 to nearly 7 mpg range and does drive over 57 mph. we can definately help you.
    I at this time want to thank the many drivers that have posted on this website their findings and are continuing to enjoy the money they are saving and thank you for all the referrals.
    I want to thank the Owner operators at Empire, Royal Freight, and Parkway that are installing the ECO #5 on their Cats, Cummins, Detroits, and Volvos with 425 up to 550 hpr. These drivers are all doing their own tests and refer the product to their freinds.

    As for the Dyno tests we had done some years ago with MustangCat, Grande truck sales and after showing an improvement everyone still wants to test on their own. We will never satisfy everyone, but the bottom line here is the majority of drivers testing or that bought units will not send them back because they work. For those of you that need relief of the $4.00 plus a gallon give us a try. You have nothing to loose.
    You do have a lot to gain.
    As for Dice, When ever you want your refund it is ready, and I personally will refund your 1 hour labor rate for the install and removal. Most drivers install themselves and it only takes at most 10 minutes.
    ECOTAZ/Ben
     
  10. skateboardman

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    dang, you just accused him of being a liar, and faking the fillups.
     
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  11. MNdriver

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    so have you filed your patent yet with the patent office.....


    Because if you filed it for your device, you screwed yourself.

    If you filed it for creating energy out of nothing, you did good.
     
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