The Anti-Lease Purchase Program

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BigBadBill, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    see, I want to be in 'that business' :)
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Eight months later,

    I was 1 of 2600 out of 5400 employees laid off.

    3 years later, I am back driving truck
     
  4. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Ya think it was a factor?
     
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    No........

    That was 2009. Lot of the people other than just us were let go.

    Bunch of us engineers were saying diversify and upper management wasn't listening
     
  6. jessnco

    jessnco Bobtail Member

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    I have recently bought a truck and purchasing a second this coming week.
    My question is.
    Is it better to run under a company's authority at 1.41 per mile or would it be better to get my own authority with trailers and go on my own completly???
     
  7. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    Is the 1.41 ( including fuel ) ?

    The other factors are .. Plate , IFTA , Tolls , Scales , Cargo ins , etc ...

    Who pays that ?
     
  8. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    Also . Is the 1.41 loaded and empty ?

    Do you get choice of loads or can you pick etc
     
  9. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    If you had a business plan and a decent pro forma statement of cash flow, you'd have the answer to that question.


    For every cost, there is a trade off. Some are acceptable, others are not.

    At 16% for a lease, (you get 84% of gross on the line haul) you are paying someone about $74,000 annually to use their authority. If you get better rates, that number can go up considerably.

    Considering it will cost you about $11,000 to get your own authority and load insurance....
     
  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    MN, numbers are a bit off. 16% would be over $460k gross.

    But to the point of getting own authority vs leasing to someone. Did you not have this figured out BEFORE you spent this money on a truck?

    Mileage lease for someone driving own truck is a slow burn. Pretty much a company driver with all the risk. Add that you have payroll expense into that and how can you make any money on the 2nd truck?

    But what is your business plan telling you?
     
  11. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    truck receives 84% of line haul gross.

    on a $4800 week, that's $4032 to the truck and $768 to the lease company.

    That's $3000 to the company monthly.

    $36,800 to the company annually.

    So yeah, my numbers were off....

    At 74% to the truck,

    The annual to the company is $1250 weekly, $5000 monthly and $60,000 annually.
     
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